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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:16:13 PM »
I dont know how to make a poll here, if it even is possible. Curious what people think. Will there be sleep away camp this summer?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 02:42:16 PM »
Doubtful
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 03:00:07 PM »
Why not?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 03:35:00 PM »
They can't wait until July 1 to decide. I assume preparations would have had to be already underway.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2020, 03:43:02 PM »
Doubtful

Its going to be a long summer for many

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2020, 03:44:45 PM »
Youth corp is canceled

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 04:15:34 PM »
All I know is a certain camp that has its head in the sand and during this crisis have put out a search for staffing. My wife got an email asking for help finding someone to fill a position. We just sat there and shook our heads in disbelief. Their belief is that it will be business as usual and because they are not in Sullivan County or the Town of Fallsburg they are good.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 04:38:38 PM »
even if this is behind us, summer camp is so clustered that if 1 person gets it, then what? Proably need to cancel and quarentine everyone/ Probably not worth to risk it this year.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2020, 07:42:53 AM »
1. It will be behind us by then.
2. They say the summer will kill the virus.
3. The camp is quarantined in it self.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2020, 08:06:39 AM »
1. It will be behind us by then.
2. They say the summer will kill the virus.
3. The camp is quarantined in it self.
Just going to address 3 because the first 2 you have no idea for sure. But number 3 is certainly not true. No deliveries or guests come to camp? Have you been to a camp before?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2020, 08:11:38 AM »
1. It will be behind us by then.
2. They say the summer will kill the virus.
3. The camp is quarantined in it self.

Which camp do you know of has the insurance or medical capabilities to risk an outbreak?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 08:13:41 AM »
Which camp do you know of has the insurance or medical capabilities to risk an outbreak?

Aside from this, what makes anyone think the schools won't be pushing summer school to make up missed days? How will they move kids up a year without having met minimum educational requirements?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 08:16:26 AM »
Just going to address 3 because the first 2 you have no idea for sure. But number 3 is certainly not true. No deliveries or guests come to camp? Have you been to a camp before?
Yes I have, and for some time running a camp behind the scenes.
1. The people making the deliveries have zero to minimum contact with people on campus.
2. For the minimum contact, there are rules that can be enacted & enforced.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 08:18:28 AM »
Which camp do you know of has the insurance or medical capabilities to risk an outbreak?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 08:38:02 AM »
Ani Ma'amin B'Emuna Shelaima in the Rinbono Shel Olam that this and the Galus will end.

So you don't believe there will be camp... got it.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2020, 08:48:44 AM »
So you don't believe there will be camp... got it.
Just because the Galus will end, it doesn't mean life as we know it ends. Look at the (I believe it's) Rambam

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Re: Will summer camps happen this year?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2020, 12:55:25 AM »
Will camps be cancelled this year? Will people be going to bungalow colonies?

Noboby knows for sure. Would be nice if someone who directs a camp would chime in here on what is going on behind the scenes.

I heard that Gan Israel Montreal, one of largest Lubavitch camps formally notified parents that they will not be opening. Canada might be more stringent than the U.S.

In general there are many unknowns at this point, to the extent where it's impossible to make preparations for camp without risking large sums of money.

As others have mentioned, schools may consider running through the summer. Even if elementary schools don't, yeshivos might want bochurim to make up for lost time and not allow them to staff the summer camps. High school students may need to take state regents in June-August. (NYS cancelled regents, not sure about others)

We may be looking at a hybrid school/day-camp situation for elementary schools if we are out of the Covid danger by summer.

As for bungalow colonies, if schools are running, bungalow colonies are not happening. This is aside from the fact that the already fiercely anti-Semitic Sullivan County will fight tooth and nail to not allow them to open this year.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2020, 01:01:55 AM »
Yes I have, and for some time running a camp behind the scenes.
1. The people making the deliveries have zero to minimum contact with people on campus.
2. For the minimum contact, there are rules that can be enacted & enforced.
What about contact with others who do come in contact?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2020, 01:13:57 AM »


What about contact with others who do come in contact?


The only people who would be allowed to come onto campus from the outside is deliveries. In previous years they would have contact with the staff accepting the deliveries, but this can be eliminated by only allowing them to drop off the goods and sending the invoice via email. Yes deliveroes will have to be checked (when it's safe to) to male sure everything that was ordered was delivered and the company will have to honor any mistakes they made in the order (usually you would check it while receiving the goods while the truck is still there).

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2020, 01:45:20 AM »
1. It will be behind us by then.
2. They say the summer will kill the virus.
3. The camp is quarantined in it self.
1. Pray tell when and why it will be gone?
2. The summer won't kill the virus. We know this for a fact because it's ravaging in places where it is summer.
3. Like the cruise ships.
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