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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2020, 11:01:17 AM »
"camps" are essential is day camp: sleepaway camps are a different ballgame IMO
Why is day camp better then sleep away camp?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #106 on: April 21, 2020, 12:10:48 PM »
Why is day camp better then sleep away camp?

I would think one can be viewed as "essential" (day camp) vs. sleepaway camp is a luxury: it's a similar concept that day camps are deductible on FSA/childcare but sleepaway aren't.

Also, sleepaway camp would probably be viewed as impossible to control SD vs. day camp by gov't.

If you read the government in phase 2 they mentioned "camps"...

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2020, 12:22:07 PM »
I would think one can be viewed as "essential" (day camp) vs. sleepaway camp is a luxury: it's a similar concept that day camps are deductible on FSA/childcare but sleepaway aren't.

Also, sleepaway camp would probably be viewed as impossible to control SD vs. day camp by gov't.

If you read the government in phase 2 they mentioned "camps"...
I think that the sleep away camps are a much safer environment then kids going back and forth to school everyday

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #108 on: April 22, 2020, 04:59:36 PM »
https://www.acacamps.org/resource-library/coronavirus/board-chair-president-ceo-update-apr-15


ACA's Board Chair and President/CEO Update

April 15

 

Dear Friends,

This is a hard week for all of us.

But this is also the week when Lucia shared her fears with her counselor, John reconnected with the camp community of his childhood, Xavier played The Name Game, and Sonia stood up for herself in a Zoom campfire.

In a situation that feels out of control, camp offers comfort and a sense of belonging. Thank you for continuing to be a flashlight for so many during this dark time.
The Critical Question

As we find our way out of the darkness, the critical question for many of us has been “when should I make a decision about my camp strategy this summer?”

Indeed, helping you answer that question drives every choice the ACA will make for the foreseeable future.

The answer to that question is complex and evolving daily. We all recognize that we must put the safety of our campers and staff first, and that we need expert scientific guidance to help drive the decision-making process.

In short, our mission is to identify and offer the right information, tools, and resources to help you determine if and how camp can happen for you this year.
Awaiting CDC Guidance

Tracking CDC’s 2020 Camp Strategy

ACA has had the opportunity to connect with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as they develop COVID-19 guidance for day and overnight camps for this summer. The CDC’s guidance will help state public health authorities and camp directors with their summer decisions, as well as utilize best practices in health management, community management, and camp operations.

 
Note Initial CDC Advice to Camps

The CDC advises camps to give themselves as much time as possible before making final decisions about the summer. That’s because you’ll need to use the upcoming CDC point of view in your decision-making process. Rest assured we will keep you closely informed about when the CDC will release their guidance.

 
Monitor Likely Variables for Camp

If you have time to wait to review the CDC guidance, expect that you’ll need to align with developments such as rapid virus testing, antibody testing, and changes in community spread.
The Way Forward

We are pleased to announce an alliance that will help all of us develop a path to move forward:
Creating an Expert-Backed Game Plan

ACA is engaging an independent team of public health experts, pediatricians, epidemiologists, and camp health experts to develop educational and operational resources for camps to assist them in adhering to CDC COVID-19 guidance. Expect to receive:

    Best practices on how to be effective public health partners right now
    Educational resources for day and overnight camps to use in planning for the summer, including health considerations around program, facilities, transportation, equipment, health centers, and critical supplies
    Field Guides that summarize the ultimate release of CDC guidance

Taken together, the coming CDC guidance and educational resources will help you to make a knowledgeable, informed decision.
Early Signals for Camp in 2020

Evaluate Online Pivots Now

ACA recognizes the need for some camps to pivot to virtual camp programming for part or all of this summer. To support this, we have launched online virtual program resources for camps looking to provide safe, quality virtual programming this summer.
 
Considering Shortened or Virtual Seasons

Many camps are planning for shortened seasons. Some have very short time horizons; some serve medically vulnerable campers and staff who are at a heightened risk right now, and some are located on school campuses that cannot host programs this year. If you need to reinvent your program, we are here to help.

Every camp is unique, and ACA is here to support you as you work through the individual considerations of your programs in your decision-making.

Take the time to carefully consider your options, utilize our resources, and make the best decisions you can as stewards of your camp communities.

Whether virtual or in person, children will need camp this summer more than ever in whatever forms we can provide it.

Together, we will each find a way to be good public health partners and care appropriately for those who need us the most. ACA is here for you, as we plan for this summer and countless more.

Warmly,
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Scott Brody
Chair, ACA Board of Directors
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Tom Rosenberg
ACA President/CEO
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2020, 05:19:25 PM »
This is very confusing.

It is written for camp admins.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2020, 10:39:43 PM »
The zone just sent an email indicating there will most likely be camp. As NYS departed of commerce will be labeling Camp as an essential business.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #112 on: April 22, 2020, 11:13:19 PM »
wonder how they will handle out of state kids if this does happen

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #113 on: April 23, 2020, 12:36:14 AM »

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #114 on: April 23, 2020, 12:44:40 AM »

I like that they are delaying processing of payments till there is clarity.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #115 on: April 23, 2020, 01:03:50 AM »
I like that they are delaying processing of payments till there is clarity.
Camp Agudah is delaying as well

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #116 on: April 24, 2020, 02:40:06 PM »
Someone just forwarded me a screenshot of a message from Dr. Stuart Ditchek (who is the I think the same guy that put out the video about the people doing secret minyanim, etc.) saying:

“NYS has pulled all summer camp licenses in upstate.  Period. No camps currently have the option.  Whoever states that they are opening is not being forthcoming.  My own program, Kids of Courage, has decided not to even consider trip or activities. Unless NYS reverses, it’s not happening.”

I don’t know the person who wrote this and if his info is correct but that is his exact quote.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #117 on: April 24, 2020, 03:07:38 PM »
My own program, Kids of Courage, has decided not to even consider trip or activities.

The same which had their winter ski trip right in middle of all this and arranged for kids to be pushed in the MIA marathon.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #118 on: April 29, 2020, 09:27:37 PM »
Per a conversation with the head of one the main Lubavitch camps, they are very optimistic about opening. I'm not sure I buy it, but if they do open, are you sending your kid to camp?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #119 on: April 29, 2020, 09:34:40 PM »
Per a conversation with the head of one the main Lubavitch camps, they are very optimistic about opening. I'm not sure I buy it, but it they do open, are you sending your kid to camp?
Since kids don't get it bad and my family already had it I probably would send my daughter if her camp opens. (I would obviously ask my doctor first).