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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #165 on: May 07, 2020, 09:42:28 PM »
If they dont open They'll go bankrupt regardless if the decision is made in the 11th hour or 2 months ago. Sleep away camps are a full year business, they likely spend close to 1m on overhead and  administration during the year before actual camp expenses.
Right but they may go bankrupt with all the parents money in the bank

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #166 on: May 07, 2020, 09:43:59 PM »
Yup, this caused all the longtime Pesach programs with reputations to uphold to give full refunds when they had to cancel at the 11th hour.

Some did

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #167 on: May 07, 2020, 09:45:44 PM »
They're charging because they have expenses. Just like the Pesach programs.

If they have to cancel, parents will be pressured to accept a future credit or partial refund. Just like the Pesach programs.

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Did any of the pessach programs offer refunds?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #168 on: May 07, 2020, 09:45:58 PM »
Did any of the pessach programs offer refunds?
LOL
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #169 on: May 07, 2020, 09:47:07 PM »

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #170 on: May 07, 2020, 09:47:24 PM »
Did any of the pessach programs offer refunds?
Yes

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2020, 09:47:56 PM »
What's lol? Plenty did
Vast majority did not give full refunds.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2020, 09:51:43 PM »
Vast majority did not give full refunds.
Could be, but I know of plenty that did.
I work in that industry, we gave full refunds and we lost a significant amount of money, I dont find anything about it funny.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2020, 09:53:31 PM »
Could be, but I know of plenty that did.
I work in that industry, we gave full refunds and we lost a significant amount of money, I dont find anything about it funny.
I know of a bunch that didnít. Iím not judging but I thought that was representative of everyone. Iím glad to hear you and others went ahead and did the right thing at great personal cost, despite not necessarily needing to (I donít know the Halacha).
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #174 on: May 07, 2020, 09:57:31 PM »
from what I am hearing, it seems they have a plan to test everyone a few days before (assuming we have widely accessible rapid testing by then), and then lock the camp once everyone in side. Granted there is risk of an outbreak, and camps are ill equipped to deal with one, however the idea of sleepover camps seems more feasible and controllable than day camps. Additionally, assuming no immunocompromised kids, the camp population is extremely low risk, though you would have to make a judgement on Head Staff.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #175 on: May 07, 2020, 10:00:44 PM »
I know of a bunch that didnít. Iím not judging but I thought that was representative of everyone. Iím glad to hear you and others went ahead and did the right thing at great personal cost, despite not necessarily needing to (I donít know the Halacha).
We saw this after we had made our decision to give full refunds (not that we would have done differently), supposedly this is from rav Herchel schachter

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #176 on: May 07, 2020, 10:17:09 PM »
from what I am hearing, it seems they have a plan to test everyone a few days before (assuming we have widely accessible rapid testing by then), and then lock the camp once everyone in side. Granted there is risk of an outbreak, and camps are ill equipped to deal with one, however the idea of sleepover camps seems more feasible and controllable than day camps. Additionally, assuming no immunocompromised kids, the camp population is extremely low risk, though you would have to make a judgement on Head Staff.
Iím pretty sure we are already at the point, at least in the tri-state area, where anyone who wants a test can get a test. This is what the letter someone posted from the OJCA said, that all would be tested and then mass quarantined in camp.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #177 on: May 07, 2020, 11:36:56 PM »
from what I am hearing, it seems they have a plan to test everyone a few days before (assuming we have widely accessible rapid testing by then), and then lock the camp once everyone in side. Granted there is risk of an outbreak, and camps are ill equipped to deal with one, however the idea of sleepover camps seems more feasible and controllable than day camps. Additionally, assuming no immunocompromised kids, the camp population is extremely low risk, though you would have to make a judgement on Head Staff.
In most camps I'm familiar with, there arent too many people over the age of 50 or even 40. There are also plenty of older people who already got the virus, we're left with a few people who won't be able to go this year, even if it's the director, they just won't be able to be on campus.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #178 on: May 08, 2020, 12:11:12 AM »
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #179 on: May 08, 2020, 12:28:42 AM »
Camp Agudah said, among other things, no trips, no visiting day, no off days off campus for staff.
Gonna be pretty nutty  :o
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