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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #270 on: June 05, 2020, 01:25:02 PM »
I thought "next week" was last week.
in general, people are very good at making firm and binding decisions to possibly discuss the matter at a later time
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #271 on: June 05, 2020, 01:41:52 PM »
He meant next wednesday
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #272 on: June 05, 2020, 01:42:59 PM »
He meant next wednesday
You think so? I'm not so sure even he knows what he meant...
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #273 on: June 05, 2020, 03:45:49 PM »
A very large day camp in Passaic (Summer Playland) announced today that they will not be opening this summer.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #274 on: June 05, 2020, 05:19:43 PM »
A very large day camp in Passaic (Summer Playland) announced today that they will not be opening this summer.
I thought NJ was allowing day camps... Too many regulations?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #275 on: June 05, 2020, 05:22:09 PM »
I thought NJ was allowing day camps...
They are
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #276 on: June 05, 2020, 05:23:28 PM »
They are
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I thought NJ was allowing day camps... Too many regulations?
These were the reasons she gave:

My foremost responsibility is to the safety of the campers and staff.  There remains a complete lack of clarity from the government about the actual regulations that camps will need to function safely this summer.  From what I have read from the CDC and ACA guidelines, it will be near impossible to ensure the safety of the campers and staff this year.  The recommended guidelines thus far are impossible to produce in camp.

 
The health of the campers, staff, and their extended families is, of course, another determining factor.  Though camps have been given the green light from the government to open as of July 6, it is with significant health restrictions that would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to replicate in camp.  Though proper handwashing would be encouraged and signs posted everywhere about social distancing, the reality is that there would be hundreds of people, from different families and communities, converging daily.  The responsibility of the counselors to keep the campers separate from each other would be overwhelming.  Additionally, I have seen the unfortunate reality that some camps and schools, which have opened under these restrictive guidelines, have had to close soon after as cases of Covid-19 were diagnosed.  It only takes ONE member of the Summer Playland family to cause an immediate camp closure.

 
I am confronting an unprecedented situation with less than a month until camps can open.  There remains little official governmental guidelines and much uncertainty about how camp can realistically function.  Trips, busing, and programs have all been upended and remain in limbo as every organization and company awaits, along with me, for more clarity.  It is incredibly difficult to plan a functioning camp with so many unknowns.

 
As of yesterday, I have also been made aware that the pool facilities will be closed for the summer.  This, too, points to the unfortunate reality that summer 2020 is far from usual, and that established businesses have been forced to re-evaluate how they can keep their customers safe and healthy.  I recognize the responsibility of that decision, while acknowledging the large impact it has on the experience of my campers and the camp schedule.   

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #277 on: June 05, 2020, 06:18:54 PM »
Posted today:
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #278 on: June 05, 2020, 06:29:23 PM »
Posted today:

And what will have changed between now and then
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #279 on: June 05, 2020, 06:34:56 PM »
And what will have changed between now and then
Don't ask me, I'm not the governer!
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #280 on: June 05, 2020, 06:46:37 PM »
And what will have changed between now and then
Nothing, 
it doesnt say that they’ll open, it just means he’s gonna decide then to make a committee to decide...

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #281 on: June 07, 2020, 12:37:28 AM »
And what will have changed between now and then
It's his MO, it just buys time so he can stretch this out longer.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #282 on: June 07, 2020, 12:39:37 AM »
It's his MO, it just buys time so he can stretch this out longer.
My point exactly.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #283 on: June 07, 2020, 12:09:39 PM »
Dear Parents,

As most of you know, the question of summer overnight camp opening is still being debated in Albany. The date of overnight camp is fast approaching, and we still have not received the green light from Governor Cuomo to open camp. AJCO, a group of camp directors and a medical team (including top infectious disease doctors) have developed a detailed plan that will allow camps to open safely. This plan includes testing before camp and lockdown once camp begins. With COVID-19, BH, declining so rapidly, our medical board feels that camp is a safe place for our children.

OUR WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS VERY SMALL!

We need to contact the governor's office by Sunday night. We are enclosing the link to contact the governor's office. You will need to give your name and email address. It asks you for a topic and offers a drop-down menu. Please select COVID-19. It also asks for a subject. Please write Summer Overnight Camp. We are also including a sample message to the governor. You can copy and paste it or use your own.

Please have your emails submitted by Sunday Night, June 7th. The link is:
https://www.governor.ny.gov/content/governor-contact-form
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To the Honorable Governor:

We appreciate all that you have been doing to keep the citizens of New York State safe. Under your guidance there were no Covid-related deaths in NYC on June 3 and the infection rates across the state keep dropping.
As a parent of an overnight camper, I am pleading with the Governor to allow overnight camps to open. My children have been home and isolated for so many months. They need camp desperately
We need to return to work soon. We cannot have our children home without  structure. Sunshine, fresh air and friendships cannot be replaced by Zoom programming and screen time. Our children NEED the structure of camp. There they learn teamwork, resiliency and connect with nature. Camp provides opportunities for socialization and bolsters emotional health.
Camp directors along with top infectious disease doctors have put protocols in place to prevent the spread of the Covid-19 in camp. Our children will be tested before camp and then quarantined in camp - where they will not infect their grandparents.
The safe and logical thing to do is to green light the opening of summer overnight camps right away. We will certainly show our appreciation to you!
Please let overnight camps open.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #284 on: June 07, 2020, 12:28:14 PM »
Cuomo said he is expecting more info on the Kawasaki virus this week and will make the decision on sleep away camps after he gets it