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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

Author Topic: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?  (Read 86517 times)

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #380 on: June 11, 2020, 10:38:37 PM »
-1 not sure which camp you went to. But most summers, camps have the local PD show up for loud noise at night, cars parked on the road etc... If the governor clearly states that sleep away camps can't open. You dont need the FBI, you have neighbors that will gladly call and report you. Most of them dont want you there on a regular year.
This seems to be why they don't have permission to open. Big pressure from the locals.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #381 on: June 11, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
All of this can easily be excused as day camp.
-1. When a non-Jewish employee posts on Facebook that it's running as a sleepaway camp, or when the electrician or plumber or building inspector sees a bunkhouse full of kids' stuff, or when the non-Jews in town talk about how they never see kids leaving the campus after night activities end, or when the UPS guy hears an announcement on the PA about early wakeup tmrw, or when the angry-at-the-system cousin rants on social media about his relatives in sleepaway camp, or when the neighbor's surveillance cameras capture the staff families driving up with a month's worth of stuff tied down on top of their Oddeysey.... it's gonna be pretty clear what's going on.

Sorry, there's just no way to slip under the radar with something this big in 2020.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2020, 11:33:28 PM by Yehudaa »

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #382 on: June 11, 2020, 11:31:56 PM »
Some boys camps (older boys) operate as  TR (temporary residence) and are planning to open undisturbed.
hope it'll work for them.

PS. I have no clue whatsoever the legal terms, so don't ask me.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #383 on: June 12, 2020, 12:43:19 AM »
Some boys camps (older boys) operate as  TR (temporary residence) and are planning to open undisturbed.
hope it'll work for them.

PS. I have no clue whatsoever the legal terms, so don't ask me.
Any idea which camps?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #384 on: June 12, 2020, 01:02:04 AM »
Solution
run it as TR, rent it out for 1 family
that family will invite many guests with social distancing of course....... problem solved

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #387 on: June 12, 2020, 12:21:59 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/06/camp-machane-yehuda-director-theres-still-hope-for-ny-camps.html
this article doesn't add anything
we all believe what he believes
we all hope for what he hopes
and reality is still the same

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #388 on: June 12, 2020, 12:26:49 PM »
this article doesn't add anything
we all believe what he believes
we all hope for what he hopes
and reality is still the same

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #389 on: June 12, 2020, 12:27:01 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #390 on: June 12, 2020, 12:56:50 PM »
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/06/agudah-comments-on-ny-summer-camp-issue-rumors.html

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the rumors aren't confirmed while I'm not saying chances of opening are high
that confirms the rumor, but doesn't make it into a fact
even if he will allow camps to open, they need time to prepare you cant [its vary hard to] hire/fire the last minute

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #391 on: June 12, 2020, 01:00:15 PM »

even if he will allow camps to open, they need time to prepare you cant [its vary hard to] hire/fire the last minute
The hire/fire part is the easiest. All staff is ready to work, nobody has anything else.
Preparation is a problem, but ok, so there won't be money spent on all garbage, and unnecessary trips, never worse.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #392 on: June 12, 2020, 01:20:03 PM »
even if he will allow camps to open, they need time to prepare you cant [its vary hard to] hire/fire the last minute
Camps have mostly been hoping and preparing for the best and also preparing for the worst. Most are ready to open if they are able

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #393 on: June 12, 2020, 01:29:07 PM »

Not simple. Daycamps have already paid non-refundable deposits for many parks, trips etc.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #394 on: June 12, 2020, 01:31:07 PM »
Not simple. Daycamps have already paid non-refundable deposits for many parks, trips etc.

Okay, why does that change anything? Do you really think that the BD did not think of that possibility?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #395 on: June 12, 2020, 01:38:27 PM »
Okay, why does that change anything? Do you really think that the BD did not think of that possibility?
Don't know if they did, but would they be required to lose that money more than the parents?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #396 on: June 12, 2020, 01:46:38 PM »
Don't know if they did, but would they be required to lose that money more than the parents?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #398 on: June 12, 2020, 02:53:16 PM »
All is not lost yet.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #399 on: June 12, 2020, 02:55:05 PM »
Does the 17 page manual exclude out-of-towners?
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