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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #980 on: June 29, 2020, 10:06:33 AM »
That is incorrect! Doctors are being "guided" by the CDC which is a highly politicized government organization. In fact, my doctor told me one thing over the tele-medicine appointment (when what he says can get him in trouble) and then told his shul something entirely different.   
And here’s your proof. Exactly my point. You can get an honest opinion from your doctor if you (or your Shul) ask. They don’t really care what the CDC says.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #981 on: June 29, 2020, 10:10:49 AM »
And here’s your proof. Exactly my point. You can get an honest opinion from your doctor if you (or your Shul) ask. They don’t really care what the CDC says.
What if my Dr. doesn't daven in my shul or dosen't pray at all?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #982 on: June 29, 2020, 10:12:15 AM »
What if my Dr. doesn't daven in my shul or dosen't pray at all?
You should find a new one.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #983 on: June 29, 2020, 10:17:56 AM »
You should find a new one.
new doctor or new shul?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #984 on: June 29, 2020, 10:32:45 AM »
What if my Dr. doesn't daven in my shul or dosen't pray at all?

I don't understand why people wouldn't dream of using an accountant they don't trust, but anyone with an MD after their name will do for medical issues.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #985 on: June 29, 2020, 10:44:59 AM »
new doctor or new shul?
Neither. Doctor who does pray.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #986 on: June 29, 2020, 12:11:22 PM »
I don't understand why people wouldn't dream of using an accountant they don't trust, but anyone with an MD after their name will do for medical issues.
Trust means davening in their shul?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #987 on: June 29, 2020, 12:57:22 PM »
Trust means davening in their shul?

Huh? I was questioning the premise of the question. If either of those things are important to you (ie. davening in your shul or praying at all), then why would you be seeing someone who doesn't fit that criteria?

And to that end, @yungermanchik probably shouldn't be seeing a doctor who gives medical advice he doesn't believe in. That doctor needs to be called out.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #988 on: June 29, 2020, 01:18:45 PM »
Huh? I was questioning the premise of the question. If either of those things are important to you (ie. davening in your shul or praying at all), then why would you be seeing someone who doesn't fit that criteria?

One of us is not following the conversation.
And to that end, @yungermanchik probably shouldn't be seeing a doctor who gives medical advice he doesn't believe in. That doctor needs to be called out.
Doctors do this all the time, it's called CYA.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #989 on: June 29, 2020, 01:27:46 PM »
One of us is not following the conversation. Doctors do this all the time, it's called CYA.
Don’t all professionals have that? Why do you feel doctors specifically are more likely to have their views clouded by fear of a lawsuit? Do you consistently question your doctor’s advice because you think he doesn’t have your best interests at heart?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #990 on: June 29, 2020, 01:31:59 PM »
Don’t all professionals have that? Why do you feel doctors specifically are more likely to have their views clouded by fear of a lawsuit? Do you consistently question your doctor’s advice because you think he doesn’t have your best interests at heart?
I can't think of any profession with anywhere near the risk a Dr has for a malpractice lawsuit.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #991 on: June 29, 2020, 01:33:59 PM »
One of us is not following the conversation.

"Doctors and the government lied to us, so they don't deserve our trust."
"Don't equate doctors and government. You can trust doctors."
"Not true. The CDC controls the doctors. A doctor lied to me, but told the truth to his shul."
"Proof that if you can get truthful info from a doctor if you or your shul ask."
"What if my doctor doesn't go to my shul or even prays?"
Me, questioning why anyone would go to a doctor who you don't trust (in the context of this conversation, apparently that means they daven in your shul or pray in general).

Doctors do this all the time, it's called CYA.

There are enough doctors who are decent human beings in the world. Why get your medical guidance from someone who is more interested in covering his a$$ than giving proper medical advice? It's a bit beyond me...

FWIW, there are many accountants who do taxes in the most square way for CYA purposes, as well. They don't get a lot of business from our communities.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #992 on: June 29, 2020, 02:33:45 PM »
Any updates on the TRO?
Wasn't Cuomo supposed to file a response by Friday afternoon?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #993 on: June 29, 2020, 02:37:38 PM »
Any updates on the TRO?
Wasn't Cuomo supposed to file a response by Friday afternoon?

Response was due at 12 today, IINM.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #994 on: June 29, 2020, 02:48:12 PM »
It is set to be heard tomorrow by Judge Glenn Suddaby.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #995 on: June 29, 2020, 03:27:50 PM »
Response was due at 12 today, IINM.

Any way we can see the text of that response?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #996 on: June 29, 2020, 03:50:57 PM »
Any way we can see the text of that response?

Ten cents a page on PACER, up to $3.00 for the document.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #997 on: June 29, 2020, 04:41:32 PM »
There should be Cumo's response from Friday and Schick's response from today.
Why isn't it being publicized?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #998 on: June 29, 2020, 05:42:05 PM »
Ten cents a page on PACER, up to $3.00 for the document.
None of the news bought it?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #999 on: June 29, 2020, 08:38:40 PM »
FWIW, there are many accountants who do taxes in the most square way for CYA purposes, as well. They don't get a lot of business from our communities.
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