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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

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Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #180 on: May 08, 2020, 07:31:05 AM »
Iím pretty sure we are already at the point, at least in the tri-state area, where anyone who wants a test can get a test. This is what the letter someone posted from the OJCA said, that all would be tested and then mass quarantined in camp.

What exactly are they testing for, virus or antibodies?  Will they accept children with antibodies? At what threshold?

If thereís any sort of reopening in NY, say in 4-6 weeks from now, will they make an effort that kids get straight from home quarantine to camp quarantine without a quarantine lapse in between?

On a separate note, for camps still charging. Why are they charging the same amount if itís obvious that the camp experience, if they end up opening, will be different this year (no trips, no guest entertainment) in ways that will save the camp money. Why arenít they lowering their fees accordingly?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #181 on: May 08, 2020, 07:39:03 AM »
What exactly are they testing for, virus or antibodies?  Will they accept children with antibodies? At what threshold?

If thereís any sort of reopening in NY, say in 4-6 weeks from now, will they make an effort that kids get straight from home quarantine to camp quarantine without a quarantine lapse in between?

On a separate note, for camps still charging. Why are they charging the same amount if itís obvious that the camp experience, if they end up opening, will be different this year (no trips, no guest entertainment) in ways that will save the camp money. Why arenít they lowering their fees accordingly?
1) Many expenses will be higher this year

2) They're taking a huge risk by preparing to open, they deserve to be able to make more money for the risk.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #182 on: May 08, 2020, 07:45:04 AM »
1) Many expenses will be higher this year

Which specifically? And if you say PPE then to what extent will it actually be used?

2) They're taking a huge risk by preparing to open, they deserve to be able to make more money for the risk.

Who says I should pay for the risk. If theyíre continuing to charge me then theyíre taking the risk with my money, can I get a discount for that risk knowing I will lose whatever they charged if they go belly up?

Disclaimer: Iím not related to anyone in the camp business, nor do I have any children of overnight-camp age.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #183 on: May 08, 2020, 07:55:00 AM »
Which specifically? And if you say PPE then to what extent will it actually be used?

Who says I should pay for the risk. If theyíre continuing to charge me then theyíre taking the risk with my money, can I get a discount for that risk knowing I will lose whatever they charged if they go belly up?

Disclaimer: Iím not related to anyone in the camp business, nor do I have any children of overnight-camp age.
Many goods and services are more expensive and harder to get. They may need a larger medical team. They may also have less campers (state requirement or worried parents) so the cost per child is higher.

They're a business and they can charge whatever they want, if you want justification (which they are in no way required to provide) it's because of increased risk.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #184 on: May 08, 2020, 08:14:50 AM »
Many goods and services are more expensive and harder to get. They may need a larger medical team. They may also have less campers (state requirement or worried parents) so the cost per child is higher.

They're a business and they can charge whatever they want, if you want justification (which they are in no way required to provide) it's because of increased risk.
The last part depends if they truly communicated with the parents with complete and accurate information.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #185 on: May 09, 2020, 10:11:30 PM »
How much does Kawasaki change this conversation?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #186 on: May 09, 2020, 10:18:58 PM »
How much does Kawasaki change this conversation?
Hopefully we'll have a better answer to this question within the next couple of weeks.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #187 on: May 10, 2020, 12:03:00 AM »
Camps might just go out of state .

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #188 on: May 10, 2020, 12:42:51 AM »
Camps might just go out of state .

How would they do that? Are there a bunch of vacant ready-to-use campgrounds just hanging out waiting for them? With access to food? Supporting infrastructure?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #189 on: May 10, 2020, 12:46:35 AM »
Camps might just go out of state .
That would make it much safer.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #190 on: May 10, 2020, 02:06:59 AM »
How would they do that? Are there a bunch of vacant ready-to-use campgrounds just hanging out waiting for them? With access to food? Supporting infrastructure?
yep Iíve done a lot of research on camp rentals and there are options out there. There are camping forums like ACA and others Iíve dealt with. If anyone wants details Iíll be glad to provide :) pm me
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #191 on: May 10, 2020, 07:31:59 AM »
That would make it much safer.

This is only in regards to restrictions by states like NY and NJ

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #192 on: May 14, 2020, 04:02:46 PM »
Now that I pretty convinced camps wonít open. Is there a tread on above ground pools. One that is 4 ft deep but will be taken down at the end of the summer.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #193 on: May 14, 2020, 04:05:19 PM »
not in CT

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #194 on: May 14, 2020, 04:28:38 PM »
Now that I pretty convinced camps wonít open. Is there a tread on above ground pools. One that is 4 ft deep but will be taken down at the end of the summer.
anyone else agree?   were opening full force  now im not sure why

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #195 on: May 14, 2020, 04:30:04 PM »
anyone else agree?   were opening full force  now im not sure why

Camp operators are definitely under the impression that they will be able to open

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #196 on: May 14, 2020, 06:04:02 PM »
Camp operators are definitely under the impression that they will be able to open

They may technically be allowed to open. The question is if it will be financially worthwhile for them to do so given the draconian limitations they are likely to be subject to, which will also ruin the camp experience for many campers.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #197 on: May 14, 2020, 07:10:38 PM »
They may technically be allowed to open. The question is if it will be financially worthwhile for them to do so given the draconian limitations they are likely to be subject to, which will also ruin the camp experience for many campers.
CMIIW, but most of their expenses are either already sunk (annual upkeep, taxes, etc.) or variable (if the camp is half full the food budget would be roughly cut in half) so they don't have much to lose by opening.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #198 on: May 14, 2020, 07:16:22 PM »
They may technically be allowed to open. The question is if it will be financially worthwhile for them to do so given the draconian limitations they are likely to be subject to, which will also ruin the camp experience for many campers.
You have to assume that if a camp is opening and being locked down it wonít really have to be enforcing social distancing.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #199 on: May 15, 2020, 11:32:33 AM »
wont they save money by not having trips or having to bring in expensive night activities