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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #260 on: June 02, 2020, 06:30:31 PM »
Can every school open as a day camp?
Seems like camp may be like school anyways, possible restrictions like no swimming, no sports .... what’s else can they do? Learn

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #261 on: June 02, 2020, 06:43:19 PM »
Seems like camp may be like school anyways, possible restrictions like no swimming, no sports .... what’s else can they do? Learn
so is he reversing this, https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/amid-ongoing-covid-19-pandemic-governor-cuomo-announces-summer-school-will-be-conducted-through
« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 06:57:34 PM by Zevwolf »

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #262 on: June 02, 2020, 07:01:40 PM »
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #263 on: June 02, 2020, 07:05:48 PM »
Seems like NJ days camps can also open:
https://nj.gov/governor/news/news/562020/approved/20200601a.shtml
STAGE 2:

Restrictions are relaxed on activities that can be easily safeguarded.

Phased-in businesses and activities, with adherence to safeguarding and modification guidelines, include:

Outdoor dining (beginning on June 15th)
Limited in-person retail (beginning on June 15th)
Hair salons and barber shops (beginning on June 22nd)
Youth summer programs (beginning on July 6th)
In-person clinical research/labs
Limited fitness/gyms
Limited in-person government services (e.g. – Motor Vehicle Commission)
Museums/libraries

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #264 on: June 03, 2020, 06:42:12 AM »
Dear Parents,

CAMP GAN ISRAEL

Parksville NY.

I hope you had a good Yom Tov. In light of the news today by the NY Governor that day camps we will be permitted to open on June 29th this summer, we are hoping to hear good news on overnight camps soon.

If we are permitted to open we understand that there will be some needed changes regarding the amount of children that we can have per bunk, as well as other changes that are not clear as of yet. Under these new circumstances in order to accommodate all those that have already registered we have decided that we will only be able to offer one month to each camper instead of a full summer. In this way we don't have to turn away any camper who has already registered due to space.

For those campers that have registered for a full summer in our regular division and BMD division we are giving you first the choice of which month you would prefer to attend. Even though we are still waiting for an answer from the Governor and it may seem premature to go through this decision with your child, it is important that you let us know your choice now so we have enough time to make the change. This will allow us to start camp on time if we get the go ahead. In the event that there will be a new start date I will let you know as soon as possible.

I thank you for your understanding and working with us.

Rabbi Yossie Futerfas

Director
« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 06:45:21 AM by Mtrasb »

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #265 on: June 03, 2020, 04:06:06 PM »
YSP Morristown sent this to parents:

Dear Parents,
For the last 39 years כן ירבו, YSP has been the premier summer program for Talmidim leaving eighth grade and entering Mesivta. Bez"H this year we will be entering its Shnas Ho'arboyim!  Parents, staff, and last but not least, the Talmidim, are all anxiously awaiting to for an update.
As previously communicated, we were waiting to hear from the state of New Jersey regarding whether we will be allowed to open our grounds. This week, the governor announced that as of now, only day camps will be granted permission to open.
We are therefore exploring our options, and are looking into a variety of camp grounds in locations that will allow us to operate safely and still give the full YSP experience.
 
The transitional time between elementary school and Mesivta has traditionally been spent in YSP and has B”H made a lasting impact on so many Bochurim. We look forward to be able to continue the tradition, no matter where we will be located.
 
We understand that everyone needs to know details very soon. We hope to be able to update you very shortly with good news.  At this time, we need to hear from you regarding this change and your current application in order to help with planning this new development. Please complete this short form ASAP.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #266 on: June 03, 2020, 04:08:51 PM »
YSP Morristown sent this to parents:

Dear Parents,
For the last 39 years כן ירבו, YSP has been the premier summer program for Talmidim leaving eighth grade and entering Mesivta. Bez"H this year we will be entering its Shnas Ho'arboyim!  Parents, staff, and last but not least, the Talmidim, are all anxiously awaiting to for an update.
As previously communicated, we were waiting to hear from the state of New Jersey regarding whether we will be allowed to open our grounds. This week, the governor announced that as of now, only day camps will be granted permission to open.
We are therefore exploring our options, and are looking into a variety of camp grounds in locations that will allow us to operate safely and still give the full YSP experience.
 
The transitional time between elementary school and Mesivta has traditionally been spent in YSP and has B”H made a lasting impact on so many Bochurim. We look forward to be able to continue the tradition, no matter where we will be located.
 
We understand that everyone needs to know details very soon. We hope to be able to update you very shortly with good news.  At this time, we need to hear from you regarding this change and your current application in order to help with planning this new development. Please complete this short form ASAP.
So they are hoping to open but not in NJ?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #267 on: June 03, 2020, 04:24:06 PM »
So they are hoping to open but not in NJ?
I was in contact with someone from the leadership there and from the way he put it they're looking into every possible option...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 05:06:43 PM by El Capitan »
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #270 on: June 05, 2020, 01:25:02 PM »
I thought "next week" was last week.
in general, people are very good at making firm and binding decisions to possibly discuss the matter at a later time

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #271 on: June 05, 2020, 01:41:52 PM »
He meant next wednesday
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #272 on: June 05, 2020, 01:42:59 PM »
He meant next wednesday
You think so? I'm not so sure even he knows what he meant...
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #273 on: June 05, 2020, 03:45:49 PM »
A very large day camp in Passaic (Summer Playland) announced today that they will not be opening this summer.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #274 on: June 05, 2020, 05:19:43 PM »
A very large day camp in Passaic (Summer Playland) announced today that they will not be opening this summer.
I thought NJ was allowing day camps... Too many regulations?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #275 on: June 05, 2020, 05:22:09 PM »
I thought NJ was allowing day camps...
They are
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #276 on: June 05, 2020, 05:23:28 PM »
They are
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I thought NJ was allowing day camps... Too many regulations?
These were the reasons she gave:

My foremost responsibility is to the safety of the campers and staff.  There remains a complete lack of clarity from the government about the actual regulations that camps will need to function safely this summer.  From what I have read from the CDC and ACA guidelines, it will be near impossible to ensure the safety of the campers and staff this year.  The recommended guidelines thus far are impossible to produce in camp.

 
The health of the campers, staff, and their extended families is, of course, another determining factor.  Though camps have been given the green light from the government to open as of July 6, it is with significant health restrictions that would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to replicate in camp.  Though proper handwashing would be encouraged and signs posted everywhere about social distancing, the reality is that there would be hundreds of people, from different families and communities, converging daily.  The responsibility of the counselors to keep the campers separate from each other would be overwhelming.  Additionally, I have seen the unfortunate reality that some camps and schools, which have opened under these restrictive guidelines, have had to close soon after as cases of Covid-19 were diagnosed.  It only takes ONE member of the Summer Playland family to cause an immediate camp closure.

 
I am confronting an unprecedented situation with less than a month until camps can open.  There remains little official governmental guidelines and much uncertainty about how camp can realistically function.  Trips, busing, and programs have all been upended and remain in limbo as every organization and company awaits, along with me, for more clarity.  It is incredibly difficult to plan a functioning camp with so many unknowns.

 
As of yesterday, I have also been made aware that the pool facilities will be closed for the summer.  This, too, points to the unfortunate reality that summer 2020 is far from usual, and that established businesses have been forced to re-evaluate how they can keep their customers safe and healthy.  I recognize the responsibility of that decision, while acknowledging the large impact it has on the experience of my campers and the camp schedule.   

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #277 on: June 05, 2020, 06:18:54 PM »
Posted today:
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #278 on: June 05, 2020, 06:29:23 PM »
Posted today:

And what will have changed between now and then
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #279 on: June 05, 2020, 06:34:56 PM »
And what will have changed between now and then
Don't ask me, I'm not the governer!
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