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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

Author Topic: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?  (Read 173706 times)

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #760 on: June 23, 2020, 10:53:05 PM »
When someone blatantly violates the law everyone should turn against them no matter who they are!
Theoretical question here. What would you do if Trump signed an executive order forbidding anyone from owning a puzzle? Would you comply?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #761 on: June 23, 2020, 10:53:53 PM »
Pompous arrogant preacher at his finest.
I see the hypocrites don't like being called out. Get use to it.  :P
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #762 on: June 23, 2020, 10:56:46 PM »
Glad to see many are ok to see the law blatantly broke.  ::)
What you seem to not understand is that there are 2 parts of doing the right thing in life, one is the legal aspect and the second is the moral aspect. Cuomo isn't God and people only listen to him because otherwise they'll get into trouble. The issue with rioting and blm and all that is they're making this country  an anarchy. Nobody cares about them breaking the law and getting a $50 ticket. They're tearing down statues and Burning our flag because they hate our country. Anyone who does that should be shot or sent to China. In every functional society there are police to keep people safe, different levels of people to be in charge of everyone else. When we felt there was a health concern, the frum places closed, when they felt there wasn't one any longer they opened. So ya this isn't about legal or illegal.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #763 on: June 23, 2020, 10:59:56 PM »
When we felt there was a health concern, the frum places closed, when they felt there wasn't one any longer they opened.
Revisionist history. The same community that's planning to open camps definitely didn't close when there was a health concern.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #764 on: June 23, 2020, 11:01:33 PM »
Revisionist history. The same community that's planning to open camps definitely didn't close when there was a health concern.
Just because you felt there was a health concern doesn't mean they did. Once people knew what was going on they closed up.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #765 on: June 23, 2020, 11:02:41 PM »
What you seem to not understand is that there are 2 parts of doing the right thing in life, one is the legal aspect and the second is the moral aspect. Cuomo isn't God and people only listen to him because otherwise they'll get into trouble. The issue with rioting and blm and all that is they're making this country  an anarchy. Nobody cares about them breaking the law and getting a $50 ticket. They're tearing down statues and Burning our flag because they hate our country. Anyone who does that should be shot or sent to China. In every functional society there are police to keep people safe, different levels of people to be in charge of everyone else. When we felt there was a health concern, the frum places closed, when they felt there wasn't one any longer they opened. So ya this isn't about legal or illegal.
What you don't understand in this country we live by laws. You like to pick and choose which ones to obey. You pick and choose based on who is involved. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #766 on: June 23, 2020, 11:05:13 PM »
What you don't understand in this country we live by laws. You like to pick and choose which ones to obey. You pick and choose based on who is involved. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
These things aren't set in stone.... you can sue the state etc... none of these camps are going to blatantly violate the law. Their going to figure out a way to make it legal. And these are individuals who effects nobody but themselves, vs whats going on in the world now which will every single Persons way of life.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #767 on: June 23, 2020, 11:05:46 PM »
Revisionist history. The same community that's planning to open camps definitely didn't close when there was a health concern.
Hmm. For example? Enlighten us please.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #768 on: June 23, 2020, 11:07:59 PM »
I see the hypocrites don't like being called out. Get use to it.  :P
I see no one has called you out for far too long, get used to it.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #769 on: June 23, 2020, 11:10:24 PM »
I see no one has called you out for far too long, get used to it.
If you can back it up go right ahead. The problem is you can't back it up.  :P
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #770 on: June 23, 2020, 11:11:34 PM »
These things aren't set in stone.... you can sue the state etc... none of these camps are going to blatantly violate the law. Their going to figure out a way to make it legal. And these are individuals who effects nobody but themselves, vs whats going on in the world now which will every single Persons way of life.
Posting here common sense won't work, you should find a better way to inject nuance in his brain, or even better, let go.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #771 on: June 23, 2020, 11:13:54 PM »
One hypocrite standing up for another hypocrite. Does it get any better (worse)?  :)
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #772 on: June 23, 2020, 11:15:19 PM »
Hmm. For example? Enlighten us please.
Yup. My source is the pair of eyes and the brains granted to me by my creator.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #773 on: June 23, 2020, 11:16:15 PM »
If you can back it up go right ahead. The problem is you can't back it up.  :P
File it under
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #774 on: June 23, 2020, 11:18:47 PM »

That wasn't said in promotion of late closures, was said in promoting earlier re-openings.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #775 on: June 23, 2020, 11:20:17 PM »

For someone that doesn't care sure does respond a lot to my posts.  ;)
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #776 on: June 23, 2020, 11:20:37 PM »
That wasn't said in promotion of late closures, was said in promoting earlier re-openings.
Oh I know. I feel the onus of proof is not on me; take a look at the infection rate in that community and prove me wrong.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #777 on: June 23, 2020, 11:27:10 PM »
Oh I know. I feel the onus of proof is not on me; take a look at the infection rate in that community and prove me wrong.
Ok so I'll teach you the aleph bais.
That community is located in NY. New York state was hit first with the virus, and therefor closed way too late, that's why ALL of NY suffered the most fatalities and the highest infection rate.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #778 on: June 23, 2020, 11:34:41 PM »
Ok so I'll teach you the aleph bais.
That community is located in NY. New York state was hit first with the virus, and therefor closed way too late, that's why ALL of NY suffered the most fatalities and the highest infection rate.

Thank you for that, so I guess they didn't close when there was a health concern? That was his point, which I was refuting.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #779 on: June 23, 2020, 11:40:10 PM »
Thank you for that, so I guess they didn't close when there was a health concern? That was his point, which I was refuting.
I don't believe you're following his point correctly. Anyways, you started with this:
definitely didn't close when there was a health concern.
And then shifted to:
I feel the onus of proof is not on me; take a look at the infection rate in that community and prove me wrong.
so I guess they didn't close when there was a health concern?
Nice!