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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1000 on: June 29, 2020, 09:29:11 PM »
What does CYA stand for?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1001 on: June 29, 2020, 09:30:40 PM »
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1002 on: June 29, 2020, 09:31:23 PM »
What does CYA stand for?
Be Exceedingly Careful ;)
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1003 on: June 29, 2020, 11:03:23 PM »
What does CYA stand for?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1004 on: June 29, 2020, 11:08:16 PM »
How do Cuomo & Co. rationalize that day camps are safer than overnight camps? Instead of camp being isolated, we have the same hundreds of kids going to camp daily, then returning home at night to their families (instead of staying on campus). I truly don't see how from a medical and scientific perspective this makes any sense.
What you say does make sense to me, and I had also expected that day camps would be considered more dangerous.  But the risk depends on both the frequency and duration of contacts, and duration may be more critical.  If a single infected camper or counselor goes to sleep for 8 hours in a room with ten others, they all may be infected by morning.

There is also the problem of quarantining even just one case in the typical camp infirmary. Quarantining several may be impossible. 

There might also be concern that the small hospitals in rural areas where camps are found wouldn't be able to cope with an outbreak. 

Finally, there might be concern about sending kids back home if an outbreak were to occur.  Parents can quickly pick up a sick child from day camp, while they may be many hours away from a sleepaway camp. 

A JCC day camp here had 3 covid cases in the preschool camp and sent the kids home for a week while sanitizing.  The following week 2 more cases occurred in the older camp, and again those kids were sent home.  It's hard to imagine being able to send kids back and forth like this from a sleepaway camp, should an outbreak occur.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1005 on: June 29, 2020, 11:18:50 PM »
Cover Your Assets.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1006 on: June 29, 2020, 11:21:10 PM »
Insurance company in Passaic sponsored towels in the mik, "_______ Insurance, we have your assets covered"
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1007 on: June 30, 2020, 09:56:15 AM »
Insurance company in Passaic sponsored towels in the mik, "_______ Insurance, we have your assets covered"

Okay, maybe I'm naive, but isn't this forum a family-friendly forum? Why are inappropriate jokes allowed?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1008 on: June 30, 2020, 10:05:37 AM »
Okay, maybe I'm naive, but isn't this forum a family-friendly forum? Why are inappropriate jokes allowed?
Define inappropriate
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1009 on: June 30, 2020, 10:08:06 AM »
Define inappropriate
Also define family friendly. Some of the "debates" here devolve into something quite ugly.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1010 on: June 30, 2020, 10:10:28 AM »
If you want to watch the proceedings before Judge Suddaby at 10:00 AM today, you need to take a drive up to Syracuse:

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TEXT ORDER : With respect to any request made by the public to access the hearing scheduled for June 30, 2020 via Skype for Business, in civil cases, the public may access the hearing by viewing the video proceeding in a designated area of the U.S. Courthouse in Syracuse, New York or Albany, New York, upon request, and MAY NOT record any part of the hearing. Judicial Conference policy generally prohibits the broadcasting of proceedings in federal trial courts (JCUS-SEP 94, pp. 46-47; Guide to Judiciary Policy, Vol. 10, Ch. 4). The Executive Committee of the Judicial Conference, however, has approved a temporary exception to the policy to allow a judge to authorize the use of viewing the video proceeding in a designated area of the the U.S. Courthouse to provide the public and the media audio access to court proceedings. SO ORDERED by Chief Judge Glenn T. Suddaby on 6/29/2020. (sal) (Entered: 06/29/2020)

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1011 on: June 30, 2020, 10:10:41 AM »
Okay, maybe I'm naive, but isn't this forum a family-friendly forum?
So is Ami.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1012 on: June 30, 2020, 10:12:43 AM »
Okay, maybe I'm naive, but isn't this forum a family-friendly forum? Why are inappropriate jokes allowed?

Cover Your Assets.
It's a game my family loves to play.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1013 on: June 30, 2020, 10:24:23 AM »
If you want to watch the proceedings before Judge Suddaby at 10:00 AM today, you need to take a drive up to Syracuse:


Why are certain people allowed to watch them from home and some need to drive jp?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1014 on: June 30, 2020, 10:38:12 AM »
Why are certain people allowed to watch them from home and some need to drive jp?

The only people watching remotely are the parties and their attorneys who have access to the skype login.

They do not allow observers and they know who is on based on your login. I had a Court appearance yesterday and the Court Tech staff was asking people who were not involved to log off.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1015 on: June 30, 2020, 12:46:41 PM »
Don't know yet what happened before Judge Suddaby today, but the AG's office has ordered the transcript as an overnight job, which often (but not always) means that there was an adverse ruling that they would want to appeal.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1016 on: June 30, 2020, 12:54:27 PM »
He said he's not issuing a ruling today, per Kol Haolam.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1017 on: June 30, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
A few camps opened today  so far no problems

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1018 on: June 30, 2020, 06:25:19 PM »
He said he's not issuing a ruling today, per Kol Haolam.

Why not? Would love to hear an update on today's hearing...

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1019 on: June 30, 2020, 06:27:17 PM »
Don't know yet what happened before Judge Suddaby today, but the AG's office has ordered the transcript as an overnight job, which often (but not always) means that there was an adverse ruling that they would want to appeal.

Does an adverse ruling mean that perhaps the TRO was issued? If yes, can that even be appealed? There was some discussion here about that but not sure what the final verdict was regarding if it can be appealed or not.