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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

Author Topic: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?  (Read 64240 times)

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1050 on: July 06, 2020, 04:08:27 PM »
Would be nice if a ruling would be issued once and for all.

Nothing new filed on the docket since Friday.

Keep in mind the old joke - the only difference between Hashem and a Federal District Court Judge is that Hashem does not think that he is a Federal District Court Judge.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1051 on: July 06, 2020, 04:09:05 PM »
Any updates on the judge ruling on the TRO? Everyone assumed it would come out late Thursday. Now the judge had a long weekend for a time-sensitive issue, and still no ruling either way? I really feel for the camps to be kept in limbo for so long.

Honestly I also feel for the judge.

Seems he thinks the camps are right [as per his writings before the case], but knows that if he rules for them his career is over as the Dems rule NY one party.

Quite a pickle.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1052 on: July 06, 2020, 04:15:22 PM »
Honestly I also feel for the judge.

Seems he thinks the camps are right [as per his writings before the case], but knows that if he rules for them his career is over as the Dems rule NY one party.

Quite a pickle.
I'm not understanding why his career would be over based on that. He works for the Federal government and has a lifetime appointment.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1053 on: July 06, 2020, 04:19:34 PM »
Honestly I also feel for the judge.

Seems he thinks the camps are right [as per his writings before the case], but knows that if he rules for them his career is over as the Dems rule NY one party.

Quite a pickle.

Respectfully, you must have this Judge confused with someone else. Federal Judges are appointed for life so his career is not over, regardless of how he rules.

Also, Federal Judges are appointed by the President. If he ruled against Democrats and this ruling made any impact on the President, he would have Judge Suddaby on the short list for an Appeals bench position.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1054 on: July 06, 2020, 04:21:55 PM »
Would be nice if a ruling would be issued once and for all.
one was. by the governor/state.
it will continue to be appealed until the camps get opened or rosh chodesh elul, whichever comes first

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1055 on: July 06, 2020, 04:30:09 PM »
it will continue to be appealed until the camps get opened or rosh chodesh elul, whichever comes first
Or the Supreme Court declines to take the case.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1056 on: July 06, 2020, 05:00:49 PM »
As in their camp in the Catskills?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1057 on: July 06, 2020, 05:41:30 PM »
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As in back to NY where sleepaway camps are currently illegal, and specifically in Ulster County which has been particularly aggressive in trying to prevent them from open. I feel terrible about what happened to them in MA, but not sure this was the best way to respond...

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1058 on: July 06, 2020, 05:59:24 PM »
TRO was deined

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1059 on: July 06, 2020, 06:02:06 PM »
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1062 on: July 06, 2020, 06:07:52 PM »
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I thought that trying to get a TRO was worth a shot, but  the tweet that "Federal Judge locks door on summer camp. In devastating move, denies TRO - parents of thousands of Jewish kids denied religious environment of choice this summer" is just plain wrong.

Neither the executive order nor the Judge's ruling was about denying Jewish kids their religious environment of choice. The Order was not aimed at frum camps or religion. It was a public health decision which happened to impact on us too. Nothing more.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1064 on: July 06, 2020, 06:09:59 PM »
Wonder if the final answer for the poll  will end up being a fourth option: Yes first half (those who’ve already gone up) but no second (if they’re shut down ch”v)
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