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Will there be sleep away summer camp this year?

Yes
12 (20.7%)
NO
33 (56.9%)
Only second month
13 (22.4%)

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Voting closed: April 17, 2020, 03:42:36 PM

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1200 on: August 02, 2020, 12:59:09 AM »
And possible poorly administered tests. It is unlikely for anyone who caught it in camp to be testing positive so quickly.
The report just says that the (positive) tests were given within 14 days after camp ended (June 27).


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A COVID-19 case associated with the camp A outbreak was defined as a positive viral SARS-CoV-2 test** in a camp A attendee from a specimen collected or reported to DPH from the first day at camp A (June 17 for staff members and trainees; June 21 for campers) through 14 days after leaving camp A (trainees left on June 21; staff members and campers left during June 24–June 27)

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1201 on: August 02, 2020, 02:54:33 AM »
I don't s see how so many could have caught it and tested positive in4days

I don’t see where it says they all got tested within 4 days. They caught it during that 4 day period, and tested positive later on.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1202 on: August 02, 2020, 08:02:40 AM »
The report just says that the (positive) tests were given within 14 days after camp ended (June 27).
I don’t see where it says they all got tested within 4 days. They caught it during that 4 day period, and tested positive later on.
Looks like i skimmed through it too fast
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1203 on: August 02, 2020, 09:05:15 AM »
We're a full month in. No real spread in the zillions of camps and day camps that are open. Gives way more credence to the herd immunity in the frum community in NYNJ argument.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1204 on: August 02, 2020, 10:46:03 AM »
We're a full month in. No real spread in the zillions of camps and day camps that are open. Gives way more credence to the herd immunity in the frum community in NYNJ argument.

I know of one large camp that set up in PA, had a bunch of kids sick, and refused to do a single test. I highly doubt they are the only ones.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1205 on: August 02, 2020, 11:23:22 AM »
I know of one large camp that set up in PA, had a bunch of kids sick, and refused to do a single test. I highly doubt they are the only ones.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1206 on: August 02, 2020, 11:58:54 AM »
I know of one large camp that set up in PA, had a bunch of kids sick, and refused to do a single test. I highly doubt they are the only ones.
I heard from a doctor on Shabbos that there are a couple camps like that

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1207 on: August 02, 2020, 12:11:45 PM »
I know of one large camp that set up in PA, had a bunch of kids sick, and refused to do a single test. I highly doubt they are the only ones.
Out of town kids brought it in... there's also a camp in the Catskills that has alot of kids from miami and had a huge outbreak.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1208 on: August 02, 2020, 12:17:04 PM »
I don't get it...
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1209 on: August 02, 2020, 12:19:50 PM »
Out of town kids brought it in... there's also a camp in the Catskills that has alot of kids from miami and had a huge outbreak.
But how did that cause am outbreak if they are immune?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1210 on: August 02, 2020, 12:20:33 PM »
But how did that cause am outbreak if they are immune?
The outbreak was the out of town kids....

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1211 on: August 02, 2020, 12:21:08 PM »
The outbreak was the out of town kids....

No local kids got sick?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1212 on: August 02, 2020, 12:21:47 PM »
I don't get it...
If the camps would shut down would they be required to return money?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1213 on: August 02, 2020, 12:23:35 PM »
The outbreak was the out of town kids....
Exclusively? How much of the camp was out of town?
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1214 on: August 02, 2020, 12:24:03 PM »
I don't get it...
If instead of panicking and sending the kids home to their vulnerable communities, they would just let them wait out their asymptomatic situation until camp was over, they would have a buffer instead of a spreader.
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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1215 on: August 02, 2020, 12:25:12 PM »
If the camps would shut down would they be required to return money?
The one in NY definitely did not shut down.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1216 on: August 02, 2020, 12:25:53 PM »
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So instead of sending home 5-10 infected kids, let's ensure the entire camp is infected and then send them home?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1217 on: August 02, 2020, 12:26:21 PM »
Exclusively? How much of the camp was out of town?
Its a famous camp. Atleast 50% of the camp is not from ny/nj, so really not hard to have a large outbreak without the local guys getting sick.

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1218 on: August 02, 2020, 12:26:40 PM »
The one in NY definitely did not shut down.
I'm trying to determine the reason why they wouldn't want to self-report. Is it because there's money on the line?

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Re: Will there be Sleep Away Camp this summer?
« Reply #1219 on: August 02, 2020, 12:26:48 PM »
No local kids got sick?
Not afaik.