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A goy does care.
« on: April 08, 2020, 08:46:02 AM »
I read just about every post in this sub-forum. Some of the stories just tear me up.

When I read a story about someone taken so young and leaving behind a family with so many children I have no words how that makes me feel. Yes I do cry. I do not see them as Jewish children but as G-d's children who will never see their mother/father on this earth again.

When I read about so many of the elders you respect and cherish taken from you it hurts me deeply.

When I read the story of a non-Jewish family I don't even know losing four of their close family in a few days I have no words to explain how I feel.

Then I see a comment how a goy does not have "out of the ordinary feeling" for others and many members "like" it or +1000 it. Not one comment "Hey that's not really true".

There are tens of millions just like me. 
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2020, 09:00:44 AM »
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2020, 09:04:25 AM »
Powerful words!

Thank you CV for sharing your heart's feelings. I haven't seen any of these comments that you mention, if I did I would have protested.

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2020, 09:04:53 AM »
Powerful words!

Thank you CV for sharing your heart's feelings. I haven't seen any of these comments that you mention, if I did I would have protested.

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2020, 09:22:11 AM »
Thank you for your nice post

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2020, 09:23:17 AM »
I read just about every post in this sub-forum. Some of the stories just tear me up.

When I read a story about someone taken so young and leaving behind a family with so many children I have no words how that makes me feel. Yes I do cry. I do not see them as Jewish children but as G-d's children who will never see their mother/father on this earth again.

When I read about so many of the elders you respect and cherish taken from you it hurts me deeply.

When I read the story of a non-Jewish family I don't even know losing four of their close family in a few days I have no words to explain how I feel.

Then I see a comment how a goy does not have "out of the ordinary feeling" for others and many members "like" it or +1000 it. Not one comment "Hey that's not really true".

There are tens of millions just like me.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2020, 09:56:55 AM »
@CV
When I read the post that you are referring to I figured it would elicit a response from you. I understand and respect your feelings.
In reality it's not him who supposed to protest or explain those comments but "us".
Side issue but you also have to realize that it's one of the busiest days of the year so not everyone has the time or energy to "protest" those comments.

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2020, 10:01:13 AM »
When I wrote my post, I was going to include a disclaimer about you - how you clearly DO care very much. In the end I didn't, because, Jew or not, I think you're pretty much part of the community by now so you were included in my main point.

My point was that as Jews our community is both emotionally closer and physically more spread out than what is typically considered a community, hence the overwhelming amount of pain we feel - while a typical John Doe does not have that personal connection to so many others.

Obviously there are "tens of millions" who do care about others they don't know, but I don't think that they do so on quite the same personal level.

You are somewhat of an outlier with a very strong connection to our community - not very many Catholics are Honorary Internet Jews ;D. Jews are a family, and you're part of it.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2020, 01:23:37 PM »
When I wrote my post, I was going to include a disclaimer about you - how you clearly DO care very much. In the end I didn't, because, Jew or not, I think you're pretty much part of the community by now so you were included in my main point.

My point was that as Jews our community is both emotionally closer and physically more spread out than what is typically considered a community, hence the overwhelming amount of pain we feel - while a typical John Doe does not have that personal connection to so many others.

Obviously there are "tens of millions" who do care about others they don't know, but I don't think that they do so on quite the same personal level.

You are somewhat of an outlier with a very strong connection to our community - not very many Catholics are Honorary Internet Jews ;D. Jews are a family, and you're part of it.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2020, 02:33:02 PM »
I read just about every post in this sub-forum. Some of the stories just tear me up.

When I read a story about someone taken so young and leaving behind a family with so many children I have no words how that makes me feel. Yes I do cry. I do not see them as Jewish children but as G-d's children who will never see their mother/father on this earth again.

When I read about so many of the elders you respect and cherish taken from you it hurts me deeply.

When I read the story of a non-Jewish family I don't even know losing four of their close family in a few days I have no words to explain how I feel.

Then I see a comment how a goy does not have "out of the ordinary feeling" for others and many members "like" it or +1000 it. Not one comment "Hey that's not really true".

There are tens of millions just like me.

I did wince a bit when reading it, because it could easily be read the way you understood it.

The way I understood that (perhaps poorly worded) post was that beyond the pain that all good people feel for these horrific deaths, there is an added sense of pain for someone you know or feel close to.

In a tight knit community, it is more likely that someone feels that added pain, because there is a higher chance that someone they know personally was affected.

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2020, 03:02:27 PM »
I purposely did not quote the post because it was not directed at anyone personally but at the perception. I have met @Something Fishy a few times. I know him to be a caring and decent person.

Other than saying that I don't know how to respond without making this worse so I won't.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 03:03:10 PM »
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 03:15:48 PM »
It's human to care. G-d made us that way.

I cry when I read stories like these, Jewish or not. Only a monster wouldn't be touched by what's going on or by the stories people are sharing!

But Jews are family in a way that other religions don't have, perhaps due to lack to proselytizing and our very small numbers. Nearly all Ashkenzic Jews are all related to each other many times over as can be seen via DNA testing.

When you lose a cousin or blood relative, it hurts deeper than when you read about a stranger. That's true even if you didn't know the cousin on a personal level.

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2020, 03:44:00 PM »

I for one can't wait for a return of the DDF ORD DO when this is all done and behind us!

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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2020, 03:46:15 PM »
Will invitations be based on post count before all these threads are moved to JS or after?
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2020, 12:14:50 AM »
I read just about every post in this sub-forum. Some of the stories just tear me up.

When I read a story about someone taken so young and leaving behind a family with so many children I have no words how that makes me feel. Yes I do cry. I do not see them as Jewish children but as G-d's children who will never see their mother/father on this earth again.

When I read about so many of the elders you respect and cherish taken from you it hurts me deeply.

When I read the story of a non-Jewish family I don't even know losing four of their close family in a few days I have no words to explain how I feel.

Then I see a comment how a goy does not have "out of the ordinary feeling" for others and many members "like" it or +1000 it. Not one comment "Hey that's not really true".

There are tens of millions just like me.
Indeed!
 No time for critic's here.. it's hurtful for every human being!
To see the entire world in shambles with CoVid-19 you'd be crazy to not feel sorry and not to be woken up and feel some pain!

   But like meantioned above being that some religions, in this case being the Jewish people that are closer than other religions and ironically are only populated in select states and countries around the globe..
 And being that the forum consist of mainly the Jewish crowd your going to see post's that are focused on the Jewish community and cared for specifically.
   While a Muslim paper would be caring for the Muslim community and CNN would be caring for the Democratic party..and so on...
 So I don't think any harm was meant in any way to anyone.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2020, 12:28:42 AM »
@CountValentine "Righteous Among the Nations"
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2020, 12:40:43 AM »
He must keep the seven Noach laws, and for the right reasons, for that.
There are many cases where those greater than anyone here used such terminology without checking on that.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2020, 12:43:56 AM »
There are many cases where those greater than anyone here used such terminology without checking on that.
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Re: A goy does care.
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2020, 12:45:32 AM »
He must keep the seven Noach laws, and for the right reasons, for that.

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