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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2020, 06:53:42 PM »
The hospital starving him was a little far fetched.
Can't open the video, so can't comment anything on that. But I heard "first hand" from multiple people who waited for a cup of water several hours. I heard from a very prominent doctor (Dr. Dov Landa) who was himself a patient in the hospital with the virus, that had he been 20 years older he wouldn't survive in these conditions. He blames (actually cried) that the protocol of not letting a single family member in costed many lives. NYU ftr.
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2020, 06:55:54 PM »
Can't open the video, so can't comment anything on that. But I heard "first hand" from multiple people who waited for a cup of water several hours. I heard from a very prominent doctor (Dr. Dov Landa) who was himself a patient in the hospital with the virus, that had he been 20 years older he wouldn't survive in these conditions. He blames the protocol of not letting a single family in costed many lives. NYU ftr.
Problem of Patients waiting for food or water is well known ask anybody with a Covid hospital survivor

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2020, 06:58:38 PM »
Can't open the video, so can't comment anything on that. But I heard "first hand" from multiple people who waited for a cup of water several hours. I heard from a very prominent doctor (Dr. Dov Landa) who was himself a patient in the hospital with the virus, that had he been 20 years older he wouldn't survive in these conditions. He blames the protocol of not letting a single family in costed many lives. NYU ftr.
remember a cup of water is not life or death especially since most of these PT's had IV fluids running.
The protocol very possibly costed lives but we don't know what would've been if visitors were allowed in how many more would be infected and in danger of losing their lives. It's a horrible situation that is a catch 22.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2020, 12:56:24 AM »
Wow wow! Don't know why this older yid would make up lies about the hospital, so see no reason not to believe his story?
 Now every room or at least in the hallways there's surveillance, so i'm sure they would or went after this nurse as well if the story has some truth, but this is absurd.
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2020, 01:06:44 AM »
Wow wow! Don't know why this older yid would make up lies about the hospital, so see no reason not to believe his story?
the facts can very well be but the reason can make a world of a difference.
An example: when starting an IV on someone where it's difficult to find a good vein especially on one where they were stuck multiple times (since he was in the hospital for a while) most medical personnel would tap or flick the area where the vein is to make it protrude more for easier access. Bruising from IVs is very common especially if it imfiltrates which takes time to heal. That's not abuse, that's regular medicine.
People that want to start with real issues in hospitals talk about hygiene for one how many times do doctors and nurses not wash their hands before PT's stating they are wearing gloves..... Bring up real issues that need to be addressed, this way we aren't like the boy who cried wolf.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2020, 01:09:54 AM »
the facts can very well be but the reason can make a world of a difference.
An example: when starting an IV on someone where it's difficult to find a good vein especially on one where they were stuck multiple times (since he was in the hospital for a while) most medical personnel would tap or flick the area where the vein is to make it protrude more for easier access. Bruising from IVs is very common especially if it imfiltrates which takes time to heal. That's not abuse, that's regular medicine.
People that want to start with real issues in hospitals talk about hygiene for one how many times do doctors and nurses not wash their hands before PT's stating they are wearing gloves..... Bring up real issues that need to be addressed, this way we aren't like the boy who cried wolf.
Not taking any sides, but all we have here is a video claiming one thing without anyone in defense.
 Does a holocaust survivor have nothing better to do then spread false rumors about maimonides hospital, and that someone beat him?
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2020, 01:13:06 AM »
Not taking any sides, but all we have here is a video claiming one thing without anyone in defense.
this is exactly my point
Instead of just saying this as fact someone has to verify exactly what happened from the hospital point of view as well which isn't hard to do ( if it was for an IV insertion it would be in his records).

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2020, 01:15:01 AM »
this is exactly my point
Instead of just saying this as fact someone has to verify exactly what happened from the hospital point of view as well which isn't hard to do ( if it was for an IV insertion it would be in his records).
Your saying a valid point, just a wild video to be surfacing in these trying times.
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2020, 01:24:26 AM »
remember a cup of water is not life or death especially since most of these PT's had IV fluids running.
The protocol very possibly costed lives but we don't know what would've been if visitors were allowed in how many more would be infected and in danger of losing their lives. It's a horrible situation that is a catch 22.
No matter how many stories surface, you seem to be willing to go to any lengths to defend the hospitals.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2020, 01:29:13 AM »
No matter how many stories surface, you seem to be willing to go to any lengths to defend the hospitals.
no in fact if a hospital is doing wrong they should stopped but you need to bring real stories or facts of what's going on not one sided stories, ask any lawyer who fights medical malpractice cases they are very difficult to win so in order to bring change it needs to be very solid not something easily refuted. Otherwise they won't take real issues seriously.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2020, 01:50:20 AM »
the facts can very well be but the reason can make a world of a difference.
An example: when starting an IV on someone where it's difficult to find a good vein especially on one where they were stuck multiple times (since he was in the hospital for a while) most medical personnel would tap or flick the area where the vein is to make it protrude more for easier access. Bruising from IVs is very common especially if it imfiltrates which takes time to heal. That's not abuse, that's regular medicine.
People that want to start with real issues in hospitals talk about hygiene for one how many times do doctors and nurses not wash their hands before PT's stating they are wearing gloves..... Bring up real issues that need to be addressed, this way we aren't like the boy who cried wolf.

It's not exactly tapping they hit you pretty hard when they need to find the vain and depends on the urgency

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2020, 01:54:35 AM »
It's not exactly tapping they hit you pretty hard when they need to find the vain and depends on the urgency
very true and someone who bruises easily can see and feel it for a while

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2020, 10:40:26 AM »
very true and someone who bruises easily can see and feel it for a while
Sorry for going off topic. You do seem to have medical knowledge, and your avatar also indicates it. Care to share if you currently work or volunteer and have first hand information?

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2020, 10:44:57 AM »
Sorry for going off topic. You do seem to have medical knowledge, and your avatar also indicates it. Care to share if you currently work or volunteer and have first hand information?
I do work in the field, I don't have first hand knowledge of this story, but I do know what goes on in hospitals to a degree, and I definitely would like to fix hospital problems there are so many but real issues are what needs to be brought up, because just always degrading and bashing the hospitals and Medical staff who risk their lives to keep everyone safe is wrong.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2020, 11:37:45 AM »
very true and someone who bruises easily can see and feel it for a while

For an older patient it's pretty hard. It resembles a mild slap which doesn't hurt me at 34.

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2020, 11:55:58 AM »
Must watch, now Rubashkin:

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2020, 12:14:21 PM »
Must watch, now Rubashkin:

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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2020, 12:46:07 PM »
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2020, 01:24:47 PM »
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He lost his father R"L, whom I believe he's talking about. I believe his mother is hospitalized as well.
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Re: COL video about Maimonidies, a must watch
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2020, 01:27:27 PM »
He lost his father R"L, whom I believe he's talking about. I believe his mother is hospitalized as well.

His father passed, his mother came home & his mother is more or less the focus of the vid how Maimonidies mistreated her etc.