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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #690 on: January 06, 2021, 06:59:39 PM »
I may be mistaken, but it's not so simple that the $2,000 will pass. It would need 60 supporters to pass it, and if they do it with the extended rules, which take longer but allow for a 51 vote majority, it can still be filibustered if there are no 60 supporters.

Until now, only a handful of Republicans openly supported it, and that included two that are not going to be in the next senate.

However, the Republicans have probably learned their lesson about the optics of opposing the checks, and some will probably back down. They definitely won't want the drama playing out of them filibustering such relief.
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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #691 on: January 07, 2021, 02:49:22 AM »
I once read that once Democrats get power (or anyone), they aren't in a rush to give out goodies right away. They rather want to give help in the year before an election.

I don't know if it applies now, but I don't think they would rush it immediately, but at minimum wait a couple of months?

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #692 on: January 07, 2021, 03:21:52 AM »
I once read that once Democrats get power (or anyone), they aren't in a rush to give out goodies right away. They rather want to give help in the year before an election.

I don't know if it applies now, but I don't think they would rush it immediately, but at minimum wait a couple of months?
I don't believe the Democrats are interested in helping the low/middle income hardworking citizens. It's all just a gimmick to try to gain control of the government. I'd be shocked if a Democrat post-election government passes anything significant for the benefit of the regular folk.

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #693 on: January 07, 2021, 04:16:22 AM »
The $2000 is definitely passing immediately
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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #694 on: January 07, 2021, 05:04:08 PM »
weird, someone I know got 600.00 only for the mother who is a us citizen, (father is not) kids are all us citizens with ss numbers and all are included in 2019 taxes. Any ideas?

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #695 on: January 07, 2021, 06:01:41 PM »
weird, someone I know got 600.00 only for the mother who is a us citizen, (father is not) kids are all us citizens with ss numbers and all are included in 2019 taxes. Any ideas?

What did they get last time?

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #696 on: January 07, 2021, 06:11:14 PM »
last time they were not eligible because one parent was not a us citizen

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #697 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:06 PM »
The $2000 is definitely passing immediately
I didn't get it yet

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #698 on: January 07, 2021, 07:58:23 PM »
last time they were not eligible because one parent was not a us citizen
As long as they were a legal alien / permanent resident, that should've been enough for the first round as well

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #699 on: January 07, 2021, 10:28:16 PM »
The $2000 is definitely passing immediately
Do kids get the same $2000 ?

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #700 on: January 07, 2021, 10:34:45 PM »
Do kids get the same $2000 ?
That was the draft until now. No way to know how they'll ultimately pass it
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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #701 on: January 07, 2021, 11:15:22 PM »
In theory you are right about them wanting to pass it right away.
But I just can't see it happening right away in practicality, because:
A- they would need 60 votes, which is not a sure thing at the moment. And if they go with less, they need to do a budget reconciliation which is limited to 1 (or 3) per year, so it would take time, especially if they want to tie it to something else in a budget reconciliation.
B- they need the IRS to help with distribution, and the IRS needs to open up the 2020 tax filing season later this month. They simply couldn't handle another new distribution, especially when any new bill will surely have new rules, like older dependents..

Therefore, I see Congress saying, go file your 2020 taxes, go get the Eic money, and after April (when the IRS quiets down), we will work on $2000.

But this is all logic, and not always do things work with logic...

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #702 on: January 07, 2021, 11:31:05 PM »
In theory you are right about them wanting to pass it right away.
But I just can't see it happening right away in practicality, because:
A- they would need 60 votes, which is not a sure thing at the moment. And if they go with less, they need to do a budget reconciliation which is limited to 1 (or 3) per year, so it would take time, especially if they want to tie it to something else in a budget reconciliation.
B- they need the IRS to help with distribution, and the IRS needs to open up the 2020 tax filing season later this month. They simply couldn't handle another new distribution, especially when any new bill will surely have new rules, like older dependents..

Therefore, I see Congress saying, go file your 2020 taxes, go get the Eic money, and after April (when the IRS quiets down), we will work on $2000.

But this is all logic, and not always do things work with logic...
The US Congress isn't held up by IRS bureaucracy. If anything they'll postpone 2021 taxes again, another easy win with voters which is free when interest rates are zero.
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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #703 on: January 07, 2021, 11:33:28 PM »
I beg to differ

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Re: Stimulus Checks
« Reply #704 on: January 07, 2021, 11:34:32 PM »
B- they need the IRS to help with distribution, and the IRS needs to open up the 2020 tax filing season later this month. They simply couldn't handle another new distribution, especially when any new bill will surely have new rules, like older dependents..
The bill that includes $600 has a final payment date of Jan 15- anything not sent out by that date can only be claimed on the tax return. Obviously there'd need to be a new bill now because it's a new session, but the one that passed in the House did not change this, which means that the $1.4k difference was only available via one's tax return to begin with- it was never going to be sent as a payment.