Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim

[ari3]

I would love to know the difference between B"B (and to a lessor extent where I live, where we missed only 5 days of no minyan over the whole period) and Brooklyn/Williamsburgh both acted the same but the outcomes are completely different.

E"Y in general definitely has a much lower death rate and probably also a much lower infection rate. That is probably because they took this seriously very early on. Unlike here by the time everything shut down the virus was already widespread.

[Proisrael]

I doubt it was actually the same, Israel policed things differently vs. some places here where there was complete disregard. Corona also hit later and fewer there because of early implementation, AFAIK. Any clue what the infection rate is there? How many people have exhibited symptoms that you know of where you live?

In my Kirya (Kiryat Shmuel) there is no known cases amongst the community. Nobody with symptoms or anything BH Bli Ayin hora.

Bnei Beraq was used in my example because they had minyanim until right before pesach and did not keep the social distancing.

[Proisrael]

Ask this question when the pandemic is over, it's too early to compare.

Too early? We have been on lockdown since March and now coming out of it. It is fair to assume the worst is far over here in Israel BH

[shaulyaakov]

1. Bnai Brak has a body count from minyanim. I don't know the number, but do know that it's more than 0

2. There's no way to know how risky a minyan is until it's too late.

[Proisrael]

1. Bnai Brak has a body count from minyanim. I don't know the number, but do know that it's more than 0

2. There's no way to know how risky a minyan is until it's too late.

I dont think the 90 year olds were davening there....

[shaulyaakov]

People who lived with them did.

[israshot]

Too early? We have been on lockdown since March and now coming out of it. It is fair to assume the worst is far over here in Israel BH

We'll talk about it in a few months.

[S209]

In my Kirya (Kiryat Shmuel) there is no known cases amongst the community. Nobody with symptoms or anything BH Bli Ayin hora.

Bnei Beraq was used in my example because they had minyanim until right before pesach and did not keep the social distancing.

So this is the point. There weren’t many infections because travel bans and social distancing *early* and *strictly enforced* kept the spread to a minimum. Less infections = less deaths.

We will see what the future brings but as long as people are not allowed in the country/mandatory quarantine when you enter and contact tracing remains vigilant there is a good chance Israel will end up better off than most countries be”h.

[moish]

Bene Beraq seems to be an anomaly. There was no social distancing and many were infected. 2300 officially, but possibly 30% of population. However, only 3 deaths.

[Shmobaum]

Bene Beraq seems to be an anomaly. There was no social distancing and many were infected. 2300 officially, but possibly 30% of population. However, only 3 deaths.

The same bracha from the Chazon Ish regarding missile attacks applies to virus attacks. Bh.