Author Topic: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim  (Read 41298 times)

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2020, 11:40:39 PM »

I know of an outdoor minyan that passing police cars saw to many parked cars and stopped to investigate, a child outside warned all the people that the police are here, so everyone ran into the garage.

Why Dont they take out the dreidels? Then they gonna scream nazi! Anti semite! These minyanim makers are the nazis! They are goirim yidden to die!

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2020, 11:41:15 PM »
So to discuss a different angle related to the c**p tornado that is this thread...

This minyan is somewhat visible through the trees from my deck, where I tend to daven, and it can normally be heard quite clearly.

I've decided not to answer amen when I hear them say kaddish and so on - I feel that this minyan is a case of 'בוצע ברך נאץ ה. Is this a valid halachic mehalech?
why come on DDF for this question??
We’ve been trough 18 pages of garbage already.
If you really want an answer, AYLR.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2020, 11:47:29 PM »
why come on DDF for this question??
We’ve been trough 18 pages of garbage already.
If you really want an answer, AYLR.

Because we are board at home and need to vent.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2020, 11:50:02 PM »
Because we are board at home and need to vent.
If you need to vent I can start a few threads to get everyone going.  :)
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2020, 11:50:36 PM »
I think the question is about the fact that everybody is so spread out.

I think ultimately It's been answered. People get a high from minyanim like drug addicts from shooting PCP.

Guy has to scream amen yehei shmei rabba.

I dunno, reminds me of guys jumping up and down screaming in middle of davening and disrupting the tzibur..

Everyone has a yetzer Hara. Just finished reading Chaim grade's the yeshiva :)


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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2020, 11:51:37 PM »
Because we are board at home and need to vent.

We are *bored

If we needed to vent as in ventilators, we'd be at the hospital.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2020, 11:55:42 PM »
I think ultimately It's been answered. People get a high from minyanim like drug addicts from shooting PCP.
Can't tell me to stay out of this thread because I don't understand.
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2020, 11:58:05 PM »
Can't tell me to stay out of this thread because I don't understand.

You have a wooden spoon, you're good to go.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2020, 12:00:07 AM »
Can't tell me to stay out of this thread because I don't understand.
Remember, no more spoon feeding for you from now on, you should be able to do it yourself.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2020, 12:02:33 AM »
I was taking a walk today and saw multiple Minyanim (kinda felt weird answering Amen Yehi Shmei Rabbah for the first time in 3 weeks).. This particular one everyone was more then 6 feet apart on their porches and a chashuv Rav was participating. Others I passed were not being careful, DW asked me if we are allowed to answer.. and wanted to rush past the area to not feel uncomfortable about actually answering or not..

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2020, 12:06:19 AM »
And what about kriya?
While I have not attended any of these with a sefer Torah with distancing measures enacted.

I believe there are 2 approaches
1. Everyone makes bracha from where they are standing.
2. Whomever is Oleh does the reading.
Always praying for delayed baggage.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2020, 12:09:38 AM »
While I have not attended any of these with a sefer Torah with distancing measures enacted.

I believe there are 2 approaches
1. Everyone makes bracha from where they are standing.
2. Whomever is Oleh does the reading.
Number 1 is not an option at all.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2020, 12:10:27 AM »
Number 1 is not an option at all.
Are you a rabbi, I'm stating what people have been doing, some with guidance.
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2020, 12:12:27 AM »
some with guidance.
I highly doubt that. I know many who ruled the opposite, although it's not a big question in the first place.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2020, 12:14:52 AM »
I highly doubt that. I know many who ruled the opposite. although it's not a big question in the first place.
Welcome to the Torah where most questions have opposing opinions. That's why everyone should listen to their halchik advice.

It's a Rashi.
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2020, 12:16:01 AM »
Can't tell me to stay out of this thread because I don't understand.
Your a bit late CV you were supposed to burn that spoon together with your Chametz!
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2020, 12:16:49 AM »
If someone makes a שהכל on bacon, or makes a מזונות on pretzels during Pesach, will you answer Amen?

עַל פִּי הַתּוֹרָה אֲשֶׁר יוֹרוּךָ וְעַל הַמִּשְׁפָּט אֲשֶׁר יֹאמְרוּ לְךָ תַּעֲשֶׂה לֹא תָסוּר מִן הַדָּבָר אֲשֶׁר יַגִּידוּ לְךָ יָמִין וּשְׂמֹאל

Our contemporary חכמים have spoken.

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2020, 12:18:34 AM »
Your a bit late CV you were supposed to burn that spoon together with your Chametz!
They said no fires this year, so people sold the ten pieces of bread to a goy instead, and that's how CV got the wooden spoon..

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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2020, 01:02:49 AM »
They said no fires this year, so people sold the ten pieces of bread to a goy instead, and that's how CV got the wooden spoon..
Ah common, and he only posts one wooden spoon, he got to show off all his wooden spoons!
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Re: Halachik Status of Illegitimate Minyanim
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2020, 01:41:06 AM »
I highly doubt that. I know many who ruled the opposite, although it's not a big question in the first place.
It’s a Letter from Rav Moshe Sternbuch from the eida that says you can make a bracha for an aliya even if you’re not standing by the sefer torah