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Initiative to lower the standards:   https://simchainitiative.org/

Mishpacha Article link:                     https://mishpacha.com/at-all-costs/
                                                     https://mishpacha.com/at-all-costs-the-conversation-continues-2/

Jewish Pr. Interview W/R Reisman   https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/interviews-and-profiles/over-1300-sign-pledge-to-hold-simpler-weddings-an-interview-with-rav-yisroel-reisman-rosh-yeshiva-of-torah-vodaath/2020/05/13/

Some interesting articles covering the guidelines from similar efforts 20 years ago

https://agudah.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/JO2002-V35-N06.pdf  page 10 article by Prof. Aaron Twerski
https://agudah.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/JO2006-V39-N041.pdf page 43 article by R Aryeh Zev Ginzberg
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/25/us/religion-journal-a-big-wedding-with-a-smaller-bill.html
« Last edited by David61 on May 28, 2020, 06:29:23 PM »

Poll

Wedding expenses in the frum community

Thank G-d for simchas
12 (6%)
This has gotten out of hand and a remedy is needed
150 (75%)
It's a problem but has always been this way and we'll manage as we have till now
38 (19%)

Total Members Voted: 200

Author Topic: POLL: Wedding expenses in the frum Community - BH for simchos? or out of hand?  (Read 124646 times)

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You don't give someone the option to use a CC when your main point is don't use CC's. You don't see the issue there?

Do credit processors give the option to accept debit cards but not credit cards? Or is it the same system?

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Do credit processors give the option to accept debit cards but not credit cards? Or is it the same system?
Clearly. He now only accepts debit

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Do credit processors give the option to accept debit cards but not credit cards? Or is it the same system?
You choose what you want to accept.
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how can he get someone with $0 dollars to their name into the class without accepting CC? sometimes you have to dig a bit of a deeper hole to find the tunnel
ROFLMAO!
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ROFLMAO!

im here to learn. please explain. although glad i could remove some marvel pain from your life

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im here to learn. please explain. although glad i could remove some marvel pain from your life
The End Game was worth watching.  :)
The reason he accepted CC's is because he is in it for the money. It is that simple.
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The End Game was worth watching.  :)
The reason he accepted CC's is because he is in it for the money. It is that simple.
Of course he's in it because of the money. Does that mean that his message is wrong?

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Of course he's in it because of the money. Does that mean that his message is wrong?
Sorry, I thought my few snake oil salesman comments made it clear what I thought of him.
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Other than the vorts, these rules are the standard in Lakewood.

Does the Lakewood community strictly follow these (attached) guidelines at Chasunah's too?

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Does the Lakewood community strictly follow these (attached) guidelines at Chasunah's too?
I think so but not certain.
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I think so but not certain.
1-3 is not really. So many "Jewish" songs are ripped off from the Goyim and they use Goyishe intros all the time. I actually can't stand the music at almost all weddings and go in and out because of it.

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1-3 is not really. So many "Jewish" songs are ripped off from the Goyim and they use Goyishe intros all the time. I actually can't stand the music at almost all weddings and go in and out because of it.
I am going by my experience, but not usually there for the intro. I agree about the music in general.
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A new initiative has gotten off the ground. Its hard to know if it will last, but its nice to see so many people have signed up!

https://simchainitiative.org/

Below are stats for participation in simchaintiatives.com by city  . . It's interesting though I'm not sure you can definitively draw any conclusions from the data.

(this covers about 90% of the ~1250 who signed up. I used an excel macro so it excludes entries with spelling errors and locations with few participants etc).

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Below are stats for participation in simchaintiatives.com by city  . . It's interesting though I'm not sure you can definitively draw any conclusions from the data.

(this covers about 90% of the ~1250 who signed up. I used an excel macro so it excludes entries with spelling errors and locations with few participants etc).
Seems to me that other than queens this correlates very closely to population

Eta once you combine queens and Kew gardens it fits into place as well.

I didn't calculate exact numbers, just a parsing.
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Seems to me that other than queens this correlates very closely to population

Eta once you combine queens and Kew gardens it fits into place as well.

I didn't calculate exact numbers, just a parsing.
Why is kew gardens separate from queens?

And they have 12 while the rest of queens only has 7?!
I'm not who you think I am.

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Other than the vorts, these rules are the standard in Lakewood.

This week the mishpacha has an ad for simchainitiatives.com including endorsements from several BMG (Lakewood) Roshei Yeshiva (as well as R’ Asher Arielly)

Does that mean the Lakewood community will likely follow this?

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Does that mean the Lakewood community will likely follow this?
LOL

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This week the mishpacha has an ad for simchainitiatives.com including endorsements from several BMG (Lakewood) Roshei Yeshiva (as well as R’ Asher Arielly)

Does that mean the Lakewood community will likely follow this?
Meaning regarding vorts?
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This week the mishpacha has an ad for simchainitiatives.com including endorsements from several BMG (Lakewood) Roshei Yeshiva (as well as R’ Asher Arielly)

Does that mean the Lakewood community will likely follow this?
Questionable wether that was an endorsement. The letter was nowhere near a recommendation for the guidelines that this “initiative” is proposing.

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