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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #421 on: September 10, 2020, 07:45:04 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-10/new-covid-cases-soar-in-denmark-surpassing-no-lockdown-sweden
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Tegnell said Swedes shouldn’t assume that the recent decline in cases will continue, and urged people to continue to take distancing guidelines seriously.

Has anyone here been to Sweden? I’d love to know what the situation is actually like. It seems they do require masks anywhere that social distancing isn’t possible. How harsh are their restrictions? Are people, especially older people, taking care to protect themselves?

From the way people talk about Sweden, you’d think it’s literally Lakewood where people on the whole pretend this whole thing never happened. But I’m not sure it’s true.
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #422 on: September 10, 2020, 08:01:58 PM »
Has anyone here been to Sweden? I’d love to know what the situation is actually like. It seems they do require masks anywhere that social distancing isn’t possible. How harsh are their restrictions? Are people, especially older people, taking care to protect themselves?

From the way people talk about Sweden, you’d think it’s literally Lakewood where people on the whole pretend this whole thing never happened. But I’m not sure it’s true.
They definitely have some regulations including a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people but IDK what the situation on the ground looks like.
https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #423 on: September 10, 2020, 11:49:27 PM »
They definitely have some regulations including a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people but IDK what the situation on the ground looks like.
https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/visiting-sweden-during-the-covid-19-pandemic
Wow. I wonder what compliance is like. This is nothing like Lakewood.. 6 months in prison for organizing a gathering of 50 or more people??
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #424 on: September 11, 2020, 12:01:22 AM »
Wow. I wonder what compliance is like. This is nothing like Lakewood.. 6 months in prison for organizing a gathering of 50 or more people??
For most in Lakewood, 6 months in jail is less a punishment than being forced to wear a mask, lo aleinu.

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #425 on: September 11, 2020, 12:35:57 AM »
Wow. I wonder what compliance is like. This is nothing like Lakewood.. 6 months in prison for organizing a gathering of 50 or more people??
The only arrests I can find for violating Sweden’s order was BLM protesters :)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theglobalherald.com/news/dozens-blm-protesters-arrested-for-violating-covid-19-rules-in-sweden/

Meanwhile in Denmark:

https://www.thenationalherald.com/minneapolis_police_custody_death/arthro/denmark_says_freedom_to_protest_more_important_than_coronavirus_rules-413350/

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #427 on: September 17, 2020, 11:08:34 PM »
Denmark’s daily cases are now higher than in the first wave. Ironically, by Denmark’s own standards for visitors it’s citizens should theoretically be banned from their own country.
https://www.thelocal.dk/20200917/new-covid-19-cases-make-denmark-an-orange

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #428 on: September 18, 2020, 12:40:55 PM »
Denmark’s daily cases are now higher than in the first wave. Ironically, by Denmark’s own standards for visitors it’s citizens should theoretically be banned from their own country.
https://www.thelocal.dk/20200917/new-covid-19-cases-make-denmark-an-orange
How do the daily cases over the last 15 days (the number quoted by the article) stack up against Sweden?
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #429 on: September 18, 2020, 01:29:59 PM »
How do the daily cases over the last 15 days (the number quoted by the article) stack up against Sweden?









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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #430 on: September 18, 2020, 01:33:15 PM »
I don’t understand the charts you posted
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #431 on: September 18, 2020, 01:36:34 PM »
The chats show daily #s. Isn’t that what you were looking for?

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #432 on: September 18, 2020, 01:41:30 PM »
The chats show daily #s. Isn’t that what you were looking for?
I think the number quoted in the article was 3,486 cumulative cases from 9/1-9/15. What is the Swedish equivalent?

I’m guessing that Denmark is going to move towards another temporary lockdown, much like Israel. They’ll have more data and flexibility this time, of course.
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #433 on: September 18, 2020, 01:49:27 PM »
I think the number quoted in the article was 3,486 cumulative cases from 9/1-9/15. What is the Swedish equivalent?

I’m guessing that Denmark is going to move towards another temporary lockdown, much like Israel. They’ll have more data and flexibility this time, of course.
Looks like around 2882 so not that far off. But the trend and positivity rate are telling.

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #434 on: September 18, 2020, 01:51:49 PM »
Looks like around 2882 so not that far off. But the trend and positivity rate are telling.
Yup. Europe had an easy time for a good few months, now it’s time to crack down again.
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #435 on: September 18, 2020, 02:43:03 PM »
Yup. Europe had an easy time for a good few months, now it’s time to crack down again.
They’re not cracking down. They’re deciding to live with the virus like normal people

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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #436 on: September 18, 2020, 02:49:11 PM »
They’re not cracking down. They’re deciding to live with the virus like normal people
You live in a fantasy. Spain & UK are introducing partial lockdowns, & France started rolling back old restrictions.
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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #437 on: September 21, 2020, 09:40:59 PM »
Denmark has a case count that is closing in on double the peak in April but still almost no mortality, so still a mixed bag.


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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #438 on: September 21, 2020, 10:45:32 PM »
Denmark has a case count that is closing in on double the peak in April but still almost no mortality, so still a mixed bag.


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Re: Denmark and Sweden: An apples to apples comparison
« Reply #439 on: September 21, 2020, 11:28:02 PM »
Did they have enough tests in April? How does the positivity rate compare?
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