Long Term Effects of COVID-19

[yuneeq]

Since a cochlear implant is permanent, I think  you should wait a lot longer to see if the covid symptoms abate or hopefully clear completely before you make that commitment.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/nj-man-gets-cochlear-implant-due-to-hearing-loss-from-covid-19/

[Euclid]

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/10/a-gizinte-vinter.html

B”H, over the summer,  Lakewood saw almost no Corona cases and went almost 3 months without a single hospitalization for new cases. However, it wasn’t truly a reprieve from COVID as we were dealing with the aftermath of the first wave – including recovered patients suffered later Covid-related repercussions including quite a few cardiac/clot-related and an unfortunate uptick in miscarriages.

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/hampshirehub/status/1318946927673856000?s=21

Scary!!!

[Euclid]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-begin-to-crack-covids-mysterious-long-term-effects-11604252961

[Euclid]

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-mental-illness-int-idUSKBN27P35N

Many COVID-19 survivors are likely to be at greater risk of developing mental illness, psychiatrists said on Monday, after a large study found 20% of those infected with the coronavirus are diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder within 90 days.

This has been discussed on DDF many times (anecdotes); this study seems to confirm it.

Study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30462-4/fulltext

[Lurker]

We have seen reports of the virus residing in testicles. What kind of effects can that have on future fertility and future birth defects?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-is-harming-sperm-israeli-researchers-say-raising-infertility-worries/

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-can-affect-male-fertility-researchers-say

“I’m fairly certain, just like mumps, about 20 to 30% of men are going to have some sort of affected fertility in their future,” Dr. Ramasamy said.

[Jellybelly]

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-mental-illness-int-idUSKBN27P35N
This has been discussed on DDF many times (anecdotes); this study seems to confirm it.

Study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30462-4/fulltext

It probably has just as much to do with the lockdown and the doomsday scenarios being talked about all day than the disease itself

[aygart]

It probably has just as much to do with the lockdown and the doomsday scenarios being talked about all day than the disease itself

Why would that affect those who had tested positive more than others?

[S209]

It probably has just as much to do with the lockdown and the doomsday scenarios being talked about all day than the disease itself

Of course. Why let facts get in the way of opinion?

[PlatinumGuy]

It probably has just as much to do with the lockdown and the doomsday scenarios being talked about all day than the disease itself

Nah it's the mockery and ridicule from Covid deniers that's frustrating them and driving them nuts

[cgr]

Friends wife in early 20’s developed asthma-like breathing issues since getting mild case of COVID in March. Hasn’t gone away yet.

Sounds like me except that I didn't have what I would call a mild case, and I've received an actual diagnosis of asthma and have been placed on medication (bh controls symptoms well). The doctor wasn't too surprised- says he has quite a few patients who are young and fit before covid who've come in with asthma-like symptoms after suffering from covid. Common denominator seems to be hypoxia during covid, which appears to have done the damage. Obviously he can't know if it's chronic, but he didn't seem too optimistic. For now I'm doing followups every 3 months to see if it's better/worse.

My question- not that it matters much now (and the doc wasn't helpful) is:

a) is it as a result of not seeking treatment (an impossibility unless I wanted to end up on a respirator in March- we know where those people mostly ended up) and oxegyn or a bronchial dilator would have helped?
Or
b) is the damage as a result of the actual virus and my body dueling in which case there's very little to nothing currently on the market that could have treated me to prevent damage.

[S209]

My question- not that it matters much now (and the doc wasn't helpful) is:

a) is it as a result of not seeking treatment (an impossibility unless I wanted to end up on a respirator in March- we know where those people mostly ended up) and oxegyn or a bronchial dilator would have helped?
Or
b) is the damage as a result of the actual virus and my body dueling in which case there's very little to nothing currently on the market that could have treated me to prevent damage.

Were you taking any albuterol or oxygen at the time?

[yuneeq]

Sounds like me except that I didn't have what I would call a mild case

I used the term mild in the medical sense, that if you weren't hospitalized you were considered mild. It could be you had worse, but as a general rule many people with "mild" COVID had the worst illness of their lifetime.

I've received an actual diagnosis of asthma and have been placed on medication (bh controls symptoms well). The doctor wasn't too surprised- says he has quite a few patients who are young and fit before covid who've come in with asthma-like symptoms after suffering from covid. Common denominator seems to be hypoxia during covid, which appears to have done the damage. Obviously he can't know if it's chronic, but he didn't seem too optimistic. For now I'm doing followups every 3 months to see if it's better/worse.

My question- not that it matters much now (and the doc wasn't helpful) is:

a) is it as a result of not seeking treatment (an impossibility unless I wanted to end up on a respirator in March- we know where those people mostly ended up) and oxegyn or a bronchial dilator would have helped?
Or
b) is the damage as a result of the actual virus and my body dueling in which case there's very little to nothing currently on the market that could have treated me to prevent damage.

I don't understand your question, but would like to say - refuah shelema bim'hera!

[S209]

It could be you had worse, but as a general rule many people with "mild" COVID had the worst illness of their lifetime.

+1

My brother, a fierce COVID denier who BH did not need to be hospitalized, said he would do almost anything to avoid what he went through for 3 weeks again. He said he never felt so miserable, or sick for so long. There are also many who lose their sense of smell or taste for days/weeks/months/forever.

Then again, many people have nothing but a cold and fever (at least in the short term).

[biobook]

Sounds like me except that I didn't have what I would call a mild case, and I've received an actual diagnosis of asthma and have been placed on medication (bh controls symptoms well). The doctor wasn't too surprised- says he has quite a few patients who are young and fit before covid who've come in with asthma-like symptoms after suffering from covid. Common denominator seems to be hypoxia during covid, which appears to have done the damage. Obviously he can't know if it's chronic, but he didn't seem too optimistic. For now I'm doing followups every 3 months to see if it's better/worse.

My question- not that it matters much now (and the doc wasn't helpful) is:

a) is it as a result of not seeking treatment (an impossibility unless I wanted to end up on a respirator in March- we know where those people mostly ended up) and oxegyn or a bronchial dilator would have helped?
Or
b) is the damage as a result of the actual virus and my body dueling in which case there's very little to nothing currently on the market that could have treated me to prevent damage.

b) seems much more likely to me.  There's a theory that when asthma first appears in adulthood, it may be related to some respiratory infection (among other possible causes).  So may be related to having a viral infection, not necessarily unique to coronavirus. Here's one review article from 2013:

Adult-onset asthma: is it really different?

https://err.ersjournals.com/content/22/127/44

The occurrence of acute lower respiratory infections is strongly
associated with the risk of new adult-onset asthma [72]. The
link between respiratory infections and the development of
asthma in adulthood has been proposed for many decades [73],
although it is still unclear how respiratory infections might
induce asthma. Age-related altered antigen presentation and
decreased specific antibody responses may lead to subtle
immune deficiencies that may allow respiratory infections to
provoke injury to the airways. This, in turn, may set up a
vicious cycle of an ongoing inflammatory process leading to
asthma [74]. Another explanation is that respiratory pathogens
may act as triggers of asthma onset to other factors, such as
environmental exposures.

[cholent]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.20.20215863v1

[Lurker]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.20.20215863v1

https://twitter.com/hampshirehub/status/1318946927673856000?s=21

Scary!!!

[cgr]

Were you taking any albuterol or oxygen at the time?

No. There was no way to get care other than hospitalization, which I felt was to be used as a last resort only.

[cgr]

I used the term mild in the medical sense, that if you weren't hospitalized you were considered mild. It could be you had worse, but as a general rule many people with "mild" COVID had the worst illness of their lifetime.

Gotcha- I guess I had a 'mild' case then... my oxygen hovered in the low 90s to upper 80s.

I don't understand your question, but would like to say - refuah shelema bim'hera!

Thank you:)

To rephrase: I'm wondering if what is currently available to relieve breathing difficulties, like oxygen or steroids, would have prevented long term damage as well, or if the damage is as a result of the virus itself, and relieving symptoms wouldn't have prevented long term damage.

[S209]

No. There was no way to get care other than hospitalization, which I felt was to be used as a last resort only.

You were probably right.