Couples Stuck in USA - Rent on Israeli Apartments

[Ergel]

Fascinating psak from Rav Asher Weiss on the matter. He basically comes out that it's a makas medinah and the American couple has the right to cancel the schirus, or, if they aren't willing/able to remove their stuff, lower the rent payment. He says it's hard to come up with a suggestion for a pshara, but suggests 50%.
He then ends with this

ובכל עיקר שאלות אלה והדומות לה, יש לעשות השתדלות גדולה שכל בתי הדין, ופוסקי
ההלכה שמורים הלכה לרבים, יסכימו לדעה אחת ולפסיקה אחת, שלא תהא עדת ה' כצאן אשר אין
להם רועה וכל אחד יעשה דין לעצמו, וישאל רב שיפסוק בדרך הנוחה לו ויתחלל שם שמים, ופעמים
רבות תופעה זו הביאה אנשים לפנות לערכאות חלילה.

[Let3]

I am surprised, being that people reported being able to fly and Israel opening up the economy slowly now.

[gotthepoint]

Fascinating psak from Rav Asher Weiss on the matter. He basically comes out that it's a makas medinah and the American couple has the right to cancel the schirus, or, if they aren't willing/able to remove their stuff, lower the rent payment. He says it's hard to come up with a suggestion for a pshara, but suggests 50%.
He then ends with this

is he talking about people who are moving for the fist time as well?
or just people who live there and just left for pasach?

[gotthepoint]

I am surprised, being that people reported being able to fly and Israel opening up the economy slowly now.

only if you have a baby under 2 months can you t oit at home,
otherwise you gotta go to a hotel for 2 weeks not to practical....

[AsherO]

Fascinating psak from Rav Asher Weiss on the matter. He basically comes out that it's a makas medinah and the American couple has the right to cancel the schirus, or, if they aren't willing/able to remove their stuff, lower the rent payment. He says it's hard to come up with a suggestion for a pshara, but suggests 50%.
He then ends with this

The issue is that R’ Asher Weiss called it, people with call the Rabbi that will tell them what they want to hear, and ignore his psak.

[gotthepoint]

The issue is that R’ Asher Weiss called it, people with call the Rabbi that will tell them what they want to hear, and ignore his psak.

+1

[Let3]

The rabanim should know the psak and follow when applicable.

[Afrages6]

only if you have a baby under 2 months can you t oit at home,
otherwise you gotta go to a hotel for 2 weeks not to practical....

There’s a difference between not practical and impossible. You are “breaching a contract” and causing a huge loss to landlords. Just saying that not practical isn’t a real argument.

[Let3]

There’s a difference between not practical and impossible. You are “breaching a contract” and causing a huge loss to landlords. Just saying that not practical isn’t a real argument.

That’s what I was thinking

[gotthepoint]

There’s a difference between not practical and impossible. You are “breaching a contract” and causing a huge loss to landlords. Just saying that not practical isn’t a real argument.

do you know why Israel is trying to stop the hotel thing?
read this    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/coronavirus-as-schools-reopen-many-choose-to-stay-home-626704

[gotthepoint]

"and the psychological effects on those staying in the hotels, the time had come to cancel the policy."

[Hjay]

There’s a difference between not practical and impossible. You are “breaching a contract” and causing a huge loss to landlords. Just saying that not practical isn’t a real argument.

A couple with 2 or 3 children under the age of 5 staying in a hotel room for 2 weeks straight with airplane food delivered to the door sounds a bit beyond “not practical”

[gotthepoint]

A couple with 2 or 3 children under the age of 5 staying in a hotel room for 2 weeks straight with airplane food delivered to the door sounds a bit beyond “not practical”

+1
 I dont think he ever lived in israel to understand the situation...

[Let3]

A couple with 2 or 3 children under the age of 5 staying in a hotel room for 2 weeks straight with airplane food delivered to the door sounds a bit beyond “not practical”

Honestly, If this would have been the only option when flying back to America for pesach - would they have done it?

And what’s with those that have no children? Or 1 child?

This seams like a blanket psak across the board.

[Danlover111]

A couple with 2 or 3 children under the age of 5 staying in a hotel room for 2 weeks straight with airplane food delivered to the door sounds a bit beyond “not practical”

+1000

[flyingace]

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/05/rabbanim-in-ramat-eshkol-release-guidelines-for-apartment-rentals-and-ganim-especially-for-americans-stuck-in-the-usa.html#more-239831

[Danlover111]

Honestly, If this would have been the only option when flying back to America for pesach - would they have done it?

And what’s with those that have no children? Or 1 child?

This seams like a blanket psak across the board.

are you funny?
before we tlv, left some guy told me i will have to go to a hotel for 2 weeks in ny with my 3 kids, my wife said nooooooo we are not going....
of course that was fake news

[Let3]

are you funny?
before we tlv, left some guy told me i will have to go to a hotel for 2 weeks in ny with my 3 kids, my wife said nooooooo we are not going....
of course that was fake news

What’s if you didn’t have any kids?

[zh cohen]

Which is why I pointed out to the Mishna in בבא מציעא. No free storage. Storing their items without paying rent is ודבר שאין עושה ואוכל, ימכר, שנאמר (דברים, כב) והשבותו לו, ראה היאך תשיבנו לו.

Does this have a din of aveida?

[Danlover111]

What’s if you didn’t have any kids?

any other questions?