Couples Stuck in USA - Rent on Israeli Apartments

[YesThatsMe]

Are you paying?

You signed a lease, no-one forced you to leave, when you left you knew the border back was closed, and your apartment is fully accessible.

[Joel]

Huh?

[Abebee]

Huh?

What i believe OP is asking.
If He's the landlord of an apartment in Israel renting it out to an American couple that flew in for pesach and now can't fly back. What happens to rent if a lease was singed?

[aygart]

What i believe OP is asking.
If He's the landlord of an apartment in Israel renting it out to an American couple that flew in for pesach and now can't fly back. What happens to rent if a lease was singed?

Why would they not have to pay?

[whacked1]

This isnt specific to israel. Lots of tenants in nyc went left for spring break and cant get back

[Abey]

According to a Freind that spoke to a rav if the government prevents you from entering the country and thus using the premises, you do not have to pay. But I’ll leave to the chachamim of DDF to figure out the exact halacha

[YesThatsMe]

According to a Freind that spoke to a rav if the government prevents you from entering the country and thus using the premises, you do not have to pay. But I’ll leave to the chachamim of DDF to figure out the exact halacha

Why did you leave in the first place?

[Iz]

According to a Freind that spoke to a rav if the government prevents you from entering the country and thus using the premises, you do not have to pay. But I’ll leave to the chachamim of DDF to figure out the exact halacha

Huh? Did the government force you to leave?

[lubaby]

According to a Freind that spoke to a rav if the government prevents you from entering the country and thus using the premises, you do not have to pay. But I’ll leave to the chachamim of DDF to figure out the exact halacha

Who asked you to leave so you can’t use it? Should businesses that are “shuttered” not pay their leases since the government is not letting them open?

[Abey]

Why did you leave in the first place?

that is not relevant to the fact that the government is now preventing you from using the apartment

[YesThatsMe]

Who asked you to leave so you can’t use it? Should businesses that are “shuttered” not pay their leases since the government is not letting them open?

The businesses have a stronger point to make than these couples do.

[YesThatsMe]

that is not relevant to the fact that the government is now preventing you from using the apartment

The government is preventing you from using an apartment? Say that again!

[Abey]

Who asked you to leave so you can’t use it? Should businesses that are “shuttered” not pay their leases since the government is not letting them open?

i am not a rav but I’d venture that certain business are allowed to operate and leases are not specific to a certain type of business using the space.

[aygart]

According to a Freind that spoke to a rav if the government prevents you from entering the country and thus using the premises, you do not have to pay. But I’ll leave to the chachamim of DDF to figure out the exact halacha

Can the landlord remove your items?

[YesThatsMe]

Can the landlord remove your items?

He can keep them, and sell them to cover his rent.

That's what I'm doing to the 3 morons who pulled this on me.

[Abey]

Can the landlord remove your items?

AYLOR ? I did not speak to a rav

[Abey]

He can keep them, and sell them to cover his rent.

That's what I'm doing to the 3 morons who pulled this on me.

now I understand where you are coming from and why you are angry, I feel your pain man but OP asked Halacha

[lubaby]

i am not a rav but I’d venture that certain business are allowed to operate and leases are not specific to a certain type of business using the space.

And a residential lease is? Someone that goes “to the country” for 2 months in the summer shouldn’t pay their rent?

The space is yours to use (or not) per your agreement for a set duration.

[YesThatsMe]

now I understand where you are coming from and why you are angry, I feel your pain man but OP asked Halacha

Well the "halacha" being thrown around here is the same Makkas Medina, which leads to a safek and hamotzieh olov hareya.

Well now i'm the muchzak on all your stuff, if you want to be a motzieh please explain our safek.

So yeah, Jerusalem yad sheniyah market about to flooded with lots of American goods.

[moko]

Who asked you to leave so you can’t use it? Should businesses that are “shuttered” not pay their leases since the government is not letting them open?

not speaking to the halacha since these matters are complex enough that the Chasam Sofer writes about certain makas medina issues that he isn't comfortable paskening. Apparently the internet is full of poskim who know the answers... If only the Chasam Sofer had internet...
That said, the reality is that this is exactly what is happening. Not only businesses that aren't allowed to open but even businesses that are struggling...