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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2020, 10:55:27 AM »
This was posted a few times already, and it’s welcome news
Not on this thread. Definitely is great news, NYS should shift policy based on this but it’s doubtful they will.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #181 on: May 10, 2020, 10:56:59 AM »
 
Not on this thread.
That’s not how these forums work ;)

 

Definitely is great news, NYS should shift policy based on this but it’s doubtful they will.
Based on one non-peer reviewed study? ???
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #182 on: May 10, 2020, 10:59:17 AM »
That’s not how these forums work ;)

 Based on one non-peer reviewed study? ???
There are four or five others around the world that came to the same conclusion.

But that is a fair concern. Originally NYS was assuming that there was immunity and then those fake results came out of South Korea and scared everybody.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #183 on: May 10, 2020, 11:22:17 AM »
There are four or five others around the world that came to the same conclusion.

But that is a fair concern. Originally NYS was assuming that there was immunity and then those fake results came out of South Korea and scared everybody.

This is most likely the case. Every data point questioning immunity has been shown to be questionable from what I have seen.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #184 on: May 10, 2020, 11:27:41 AM »
This is most likely the case. Every data point questioning immunity has been shown to be questionable from what I have seen.
Have you seen any others besides for that South Korea story?

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #185 on: May 10, 2020, 11:30:49 AM »
Have you seen any others besides for that South Korea story?
I reecall some other anecdotal cases from around the world. Not searching for tehm now.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #186 on: May 10, 2020, 11:59:10 AM »
Have you seen any others besides for that South Korea story?
There were from China as well. I agree that it’s increasingly likely that antibodies confer immunity. We don’t know exact parameters yet, but I have posted multiple articles and studies supporting this in the good news thread.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #187 on: May 19, 2020, 12:23:48 PM »
Any more people experienced this flareup?
How about a third time ? anybody have symptoms  a third time ?

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #188 on: May 19, 2020, 01:13:18 PM »
Any more people experienced this flareup?
How about a third time ? anybody have symptoms  a third time ?
Twice was enough for me.
With Hashem's help I hope I'm done with it.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2020, 02:42:54 PM »
Any more people experienced this flareup?
How about a third time ? anybody have symptoms  a third time ?
My aunt, she’s still in middle. No third.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #191 on: May 19, 2020, 03:02:52 PM »
As the one who started this thread, I'd like to make an observation.
Although I am scrupulously following the stay-at-home order, I see many people who have moved past it.
Yet, there is no new outbreak.
It makes me believe that people who have it do have immunity for some time.
In my case, perhaps it just never really left and flared up again later.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #192 on: May 19, 2020, 04:29:53 PM »
As the one who started this thread, I'd like to make an observation.
Although I am scrupulously following the stay-at-home order, I see many people who have moved past it.
Yet, there is no new outbreak.
It makes me believe that people who have it do have immunity for some time.
In my case, perhaps it just never really left and flared up again later.
While I’m not disagreeing with your premise that it seems immunity (at least to some extent) exists, there are many reasons that you would not be seeing a new large outbreak yet beyond immunity. This holds true in places everywhere around the world that have gone through this, including places where there has been a very small percentage of the population infected.

Some possibilities:
-There are far fewer infected people around now than before
-As much as “people have moved past it”, the amount of mingling between and beyond social circles is very very far from where we were previously. Think shuls, Yeshivos, stores, weddings. I know of someone who broke all the rules last week and had an 80 person indoor wedding. Compare that with the smallest typical wedding in Bais Faiga, which has a minimum of 350 people invited to the meal alone, which goes on in multiple places nightly. People keep certain standards of distancing everywhere, and there is still a lot of mask wearing and hand washing. This has a tremendous impact.
-Testing and awareness are way up.
-It is way too early to see an outbreak, as each passing day more and more people are getting lax. A week or two ago most people were still being much stricter than they currently are.

In summation, while I do believe (some) immunity is a thing and I think many people in my community have it, to arrive at that conclusion from your observation is unscientific to say the least.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #193 on: May 19, 2020, 05:23:12 PM »
While I’m not disagreeing with your premise that it seems immunity (at least to some extent) exists, there are many reasons that you would not be seeing a new large outbreak yet beyond immunity. This holds true in places everywhere around the world that have gone through this, including places where there has been a very small percentage of the population infected.

Some possibilities:
-There are far fewer infected people around now than before
-As much as “people have moved past it”, the amount of mingling between and beyond social circles is very very far from where we were previously. Think shuls, Yeshivos, stores, weddings. I know of someone who broke all the rules last week and had an 80 person indoor wedding. Compare that with the smallest typical wedding in Bais Faiga, which has a minimum of 350 people invited to the meal alone, which goes on in multiple places nightly. People keep certain standards of distancing everywhere, and there is still a lot of mask wearing and hand washing. This has a tremendous impact.
-Testing and awareness are way up.
-It is way too early to see an outbreak, as each passing day more and more people are getting lax. A week or two ago most people were still being much stricter than they currently are.

In summation, while I do believe (some) immunity is a thing and I think many people in my community have it, to arrive at that conclusion from your observation is unscientific to say the least.
I never intended for my observation to be considered scientific. :)
I do agree with your post. You raise very good points.
Time will tell.
May Hashem allow us to move past this (in a way that we are better than before).

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #194 on: May 19, 2020, 08:19:40 PM »
I never intended for my observation to be considered scientific. :)
I do agree with your post. You raise very good points.
Time will tell.
May Hashem allow us to move past this (in a way that we are better than before).
Amen!
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #195 on: May 27, 2020, 12:26:41 PM »
Someone I know who has had no symptoms in over 2 months just tested positive today!

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #196 on: May 27, 2020, 12:27:58 PM »
Someone I know who has had no symptoms in over 2 months just tested positive today!
Did he test positive before those 2 months?
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #197 on: May 27, 2020, 12:46:20 PM »
Someone I know who has had no symptoms in over 2 months just tested positive today!
Any new symptoms?

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #199 on: May 27, 2020, 02:44:55 PM »
Any new symptoms?
None whatsoever.