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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #225 on: August 06, 2020, 06:26:52 AM »
There's no reason to think they're not contagious if they're symptomatic. I think the ones they're saying are not contagious are asymptomatic people testing positive again.
Exactly. In which case they may have a pre symptomatic stage as well.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #226 on: August 06, 2020, 10:53:26 AM »
Maybe I didn't read it well enough, but I don't see that discussed in that article.

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Research suggests coronavirus reinfection is unlikely
But despite the anecdotal reports from doctors about patients becoming reinfected with the coronavirus, researchers say there's no evidence supporting the notion that people can become reinfected with the virus within a short time period.

"I haven't heard of a case where it's been truly unambiguously demonstrated," said Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

For instance, South Korea's Center for Disease Control and Prevention in one study confirmed that, among 285 cases of people who again tested positive for the coronavirus two months after receiving their initial positive test results (including some who were experiencing Covid-19 symptoms two months after their initial diagnoses), none of the patients' new samples contained enough virus particles to allow researchers to grow the virus from the samples in a lab. Researchers said those results indicated that the patients weren't actively infected with the virus, and the diagnostic tests likely had detected dead virus particles that remained in their bodies or generated false-positive positive results.

Further, the researchers noted that none of the patients who re-tested positive for the coronavirus transmitted the pathogen to others.

"It was pretty solid epidemiological and virological evidence that reinfection was not happening, at least in those people," Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University, said.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #227 on: August 06, 2020, 11:21:24 AM »
There's no reason to think they're not contagious if they're symptomatic. I think the ones they're saying are not contagious are asymptomatic people testing positive again.
There is. It's assumed the PCR tests are picking up non potent old viral RNA remnants and the symptoms are a new flu infection.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #228 on: August 06, 2020, 04:38:07 PM »
That means they're not reinfected. Why is that assumed - are they testing positive for the flu? I haven't seen that anywhere..

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #230 on: August 07, 2020, 11:51:12 AM »
Why is that assumed
Because it's much more likely.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #231 on: August 07, 2020, 11:54:22 AM »
https://anash.org/coronavirus-update-38-reinfections/

OMG. @gozalim did you see this sentece:

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This optimism is borne of our observations on the ground and the increasing study of aspects of the immune system not yet easily measurable.

No scientific studies, no PhD endorsements, nothing, just plain old using simple tools granted to all of us by our creator.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #232 on: August 07, 2020, 12:01:31 PM »
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OMG. @gozalim did you see this sentece:

No scientific studies, no PhD endorsements, nothing, just plain old using simple tools granted to all of us by our creator.
thanks
From them a lot stronger than from you

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #233 on: August 07, 2020, 12:05:43 PM »
Agav, @ExGingi I thought of you when I came across this sicha last week.
Make of it what you will


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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #234 on: August 07, 2020, 12:10:04 PM »
Agav, @ExGingi I thought of you when I came across this sicha last week.
Make of it what you will


I guess it was the last line on that page that made you think of me. Thanks. Appreciated.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #235 on: August 07, 2020, 12:14:37 PM »
By thanks
From them a lot stronger than from you

You're right. I did mention that I need a new pair of glasses.
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #236 on: August 07, 2020, 12:18:28 PM »
You're right. I did mention that I need a new pair of glasses.
I don't turn to Dr Rosen as my ידידים מבינים for investment advice.

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #237 on: August 07, 2020, 12:20:48 PM »
In absence of proven data, we take the best information we can get.
With people who have the training to equippe them to understand what they're seeing, (and the combined expertise of multiple people) and they then also did a thorough collection of the available local data (not just the anecdotes they happen to bump into), it's the best data we're gonna get, especially regarding the actual location they're monitoring

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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #238 on: August 07, 2020, 12:51:37 PM »
I don't turn to Dr Rosen as my ידידים מבינים for investment advice.

Nor should you turn to me as a ידיד מבין for medical advice.

Also, I'm not even sure what you're doing on this thread. You didn't even have it once! Or are you going like the guy who heard that making the first million is the hardest part, so he went straight to the second?
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Re: Getting Corona Virus Twice
« Reply #239 on: August 07, 2020, 01:23:42 PM »
Also, I'm not even sure what you're doing on this thread.
Somebody paged me here.

Earning a second million is probably easier and probably more commonly done than many assume
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