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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2020, 08:19:08 PM »
It only takes one person or gathering to start another outbreak and start raising the infection rate once again.
I think you misunderstood
I was just giving a hypothetical example of how it likely won’t just go away with social distancing.
As long as social distancing keeps the rate below 1 it will automatically go away as each new generation is smaller than the one before. There will be outliers who infect more but they will keep shrinking until they disappear
People here were saying no herd immunity so I was playing along.
I agree there is no guarantee of herd immunity here. I’m explaining that the concept of herd immunity works the same way. I’m not writing out the whole thing now but here is a link you can read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity?wprov=sfti1

Basically, the percentage who are immunized works to lower the R0 to less than 1, which causes the disease to eventually die out. Social distancing the R0 to less than 1 would have the same effect.
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2020, 08:22:03 PM »
It only takes one person or gathering to start another outbreak and start raising the infection rate once again.

Well this is true but the overall precautions have reduced the spread when you have more people washing their hands, avoiding face contact, wearing masks etc..

This is going to go down and this is exactly also why the shelter on place works.


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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2020, 09:32:59 PM »
If you are going to talk about R values you don't get to make up your own rules. Less than 1 and it dies out.
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2020, 09:38:29 PM »
Your hypothesis isn’t logical. If R=.7 then the one new case won’t infect 8 others.

R=.7 is the average. you can still have one person infect 8 but that would mean there are other infected people infecting less than .7 to balance that out.

Overall the amount of infections would still be declining. Problem is people would still be getting sick and dying just in steadily declining numbers.


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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2020, 11:01:38 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-morons-big-beach-crowds-test-states-stay-at-home-exhortations/ar-BB13ehPj

How’s California opening beaches and here in nyc region we are vacuum-packed?!?!?

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2020, 10:21:28 AM »
From the UK, today
NHS issues urgent alert amid spike in the number of children being admitted to intensive care with a new coronavirus-related 'inflammatory syndrome'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8260399/NHS-issues-doctors-urgent-alert-coronavirus-related-condition-children.html

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #126 on: April 28, 2020, 08:30:05 PM »
I have been seeing articles about this

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-some-patients-may-suffer-lasting-lung-damage

But yeah sure everybody should go get herd immunity.. it's just like the flu

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #127 on: April 28, 2020, 09:12:30 PM »
From the UK, today
NHS issues urgent alert amid spike in the number of children being admitted to intensive care with a new coronavirus-related 'inflammatory syndrome'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8260399/NHS-issues-doctors-urgent-alert-coronavirus-related-condition-children.html

Why is this only being reported in the UK?

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #130 on: April 30, 2020, 11:36:50 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/children-can-hug-their-grandparents-swiss-infectious-disease-chief-2020-4
This brings back my question why is so little research done on the BASICS of the virus to clear confusion it’s around for months already all we hear we still don’t know ,not enough research done etc

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #132 on: April 30, 2020, 12:04:07 PM »
This brings back my question why is so little research done on the BASICS of the virus to clear confusion it’s around for months already all we hear we still don’t know ,not enough research done etc
so little and not enough are not equivalents.
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #133 on: April 30, 2020, 12:04:35 PM »
This brings back my question why is so little research done on the BASICS of the virus to clear confusion it’s around for months already all we hear we still don’t know ,not enough research done etc

Ironically, research is most likely what gave us this gift to begin with.
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #134 on: April 30, 2020, 12:11:42 PM »
Ironically, research is most likely what gave us this gift to begin with.
https://twitter.com/KyleOlbert/status/1254976906505654273
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #135 on: April 30, 2020, 12:14:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/KyleOlbert/status/1254976906505654273

While that may be true, the pics aren't the proof. That like taking a picture of an office mincha minyan with an asher yatzar poster in the background and saying they aren't doing whatever they say they're doing and only have religious motivations.
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #136 on: April 30, 2020, 12:22:50 PM »
While that may be true, the pics aren't the proof. That like taking a picture of an office mincha minyan with an asher yatzar poster in the background and saying they aren't doing whatever they say they're doing and only have religious motivations.
Yes I understand

An additional point and note the disappearance of the oath from this page (ETA scroll to the bottom)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012cpc/2010-09/14/content_15857220.htm

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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #137 on: April 30, 2020, 12:29:10 PM »
Yes I understand

An additional point and note the disappearance of the oath from this page (ETA scroll to the bottom)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012cpc/2010-09/14/content_15857220.htm

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This shouldn't be news to anyone... Communism has been around for a long time. What would be interesting is if they tie Dr. Fauci and NIH to this lab...
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #138 on: April 30, 2020, 12:32:03 PM »
Yes I understand

An additional point and note the disappearance of the oath from this page (ETA scroll to the bottom)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012cpc/2010-09/14/content_15857220.htm

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I also don't like his point that the science can't be trusted. They may have ulterior motives, but science is science. If it's verifiable and it helps us, that's all that matters right now. The Germans gave us a lot of our nuclear science...
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Re: Can we stop this stupidity?!? Corona IS dangerous to young people.
« Reply #139 on: April 30, 2020, 12:39:27 PM »
This shouldn't be news to anyone... Communism has been around for a long time. What would be interesting is if they tie Dr. Fauci and NIH to this lab...

Do you mean something like what I posted in the interesting article thread?
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
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