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Areivim USA is a dignified way to give צדקה. It is not Life Insurance and doesn't guarantee any sort of financial protection to its members. it is registered as a religious organization and as such isn't required to incur the additional cost of preparing and filing form 990 with the IRS.

http://www.areivim.info/rform.php

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I spoke to Areivim at length as I sell life insurance and wanted to best advise ppl that had Areivim already and wanted to supplement it with LI.
I was told that it has never happened that Areivim declined to pay out based on someones assets or LI. It has happened that the family told them they don't need the money, but they never told the family no.
Simple reasoning is, they also think that 100K per yasom doesn't really cover it, the program just won't allow for a higher payout at $28/ monthly. So they encourage everyone to have LI as well to make sure kids are adequetly covered, and owning LI does not disqualify a payout [unless each kid will receive over a million dollars etc].



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They are tax exempt. Click on the below IRS link and then download the first attachment. Then search "Areivim USA"

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/tax-exempt-organization-search-bulk-data-downloads


This (I have been to a few Areivim meeting with these Rabbonim)

Harav Elya Brudny, Rosh Yeshivas Mir Flatbush;
Harav Yitzchok Isaac Eichenstein, Galanter Rav;
Harav Doniel Geldzahler, Rosh Yeshivas Ohr Yisrael;
Harav Binyomin Zev Landau, Tosher Dayan of Boro Park;
Harav Henoch Shachar, Rav of Klal Ohr Tuvia in Lakewood

Areivim Terms and Conditions (emphasis added):
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4) Areivim USA is not life insurance. Areivim USA has been established primarily as a charitable endeavor and its halachic status is like that of all tzedakah money collected from the public. In the event of a the passing of a member r”l, all contributions can be made with maaser money.

5) In the event of (G-d forbid) a large number of deaths among members (as a result of a war, an earthquake, etc.), Areivim USA reserves the right to consult with its Rabbinical Board on proper procedures.

6) Members have no rights to sue or submit legal claims against the decisions of Areivim USA or its Rabbinical Board, including for failure to initiate a collection. There are no oral agreements or other commitments between Areivim USA and its members, and no such oral agreements or commitments shall be given any legal effect.

« Last edited by ExGingi on May 30, 2021, 11:11:03 AM »

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #560 on: May 24, 2021, 08:49:59 AM »
What then?
I would imagine they typically pay to a keren
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #561 on: May 24, 2021, 09:23:18 AM »
I would imagine they typically pay to a keren
What then?
The money goes to a board of 3 men which is formed by the family and they put it into a CD account.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #562 on: May 24, 2021, 09:23:51 AM »
I would imagine they typically pay to a keren

Run by Arevim or trustees designated by the family?

If the former then it’s could be a total sham because they might not actually be paying out.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #563 on: May 24, 2021, 09:24:33 AM »
The money goes to a board of 3 men which is formed by the family and they put it into a CD account.

CD? Can’t see how that’s prudent.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #564 on: May 24, 2021, 09:26:05 AM »
Guys please don’t make assumptions here.... please verify from people that actually got the money.

You can PM me for a phone number of a close friend that lost his father and he had a few million $$$ LI and they got Arievim money within a few weeks.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #565 on: May 24, 2021, 09:27:31 AM »
CD? Can’t see how that’s prudent.
Sane here. Just stating facts that I know. (The rabanim on the board are not businessmen and they don’t let invest the money, not every in the S&P)

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #566 on: May 24, 2021, 09:30:08 AM »
Sane here. Just stating facts that I know. (The rabanim on the board are not businessmen and they don’t let invest the money, not every in the S&P)

It’s pretty clear from your posts in this thread that you’re taking a side and not just stating what you know.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #567 on: May 24, 2021, 09:52:35 AM »
It’s pretty clear from your posts in this thread that you’re taking a side and not just stating what you know.
Maybe he is taking a side BECAUSE of what he knows?
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #568 on: May 24, 2021, 10:03:03 AM »
CD? Can’t see how that’s prudent.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #569 on: May 24, 2021, 10:52:36 AM »
Guys please don’t make assumptions here.... please verify from people that actually got the money.

You can PM me for a phone number of a close friend that lost his father and he had a few million $$$ LI and they got Arievim money within a few weeks.
and you have seen the check?????

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #570 on: May 24, 2021, 11:50:13 AM »
CD? Can’t see how that’s prudent.

They actually form one CD per $250k, to ensure FDIC insurance. Unfortunately, too many bad things have happened with tzedaka funds that have been invested, and maximum security is the goal here.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #571 on: May 24, 2021, 01:34:39 PM »
It’s pretty clear from your posts in this thread that you’re taking a side and not just stating what you know.
Maybe he is taking a side BECAUSE of what he knows?
I'm not making any money here from posting about this, all i know is that people started bashing about this org. and i do know a few people that got the money and 1 of them which is a close friend which i talk to very often and i asked him if i can give out his number for people to verify and he's ok with it....

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #572 on: May 24, 2021, 01:35:32 PM »
and you have seen the check?????
Seriously??? No it was a wire. ;)

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #573 on: May 24, 2021, 01:47:31 PM »
Seriously??? No it was a wire. ;)
Care to share the amount????????????? since i don't believe you

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« Reply #574 on: May 24, 2021, 01:55:05 PM »
Care to share the amount????????????? since i don't believe you
I don't need you to believe me.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #575 on: May 24, 2021, 04:57:38 PM »
Care to share the amount????????????? since i don't believe you
seems like if he shares the amount then you will believe him. How's that for good old authentic verification....it's true, I even saw it online.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #576 on: May 24, 2021, 05:28:39 PM »
CD? Can’t see how that’s prudent.

Prudent in this context means a Guaranteed instrument (i.e. at any given point in time one will be able to liquidate for no-less than deposited) with extremely high liquidity.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #577 on: May 24, 2021, 05:29:04 PM »
seems like if he shares the amount then you will believe him. How's that for good old authentic verification....it's true, I even saw it online.
Exactly, he's here to bash them for some reason..... if someone really wants to know he can PM me for a phone number of my friend.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #578 on: May 24, 2021, 07:22:58 PM »
I'm not making any money here from posting about this, all i know is that people started bashing about this org. and i do know a few people that got the money and 1 of them which is a close friend which i talk to very often and i asked him if i can give out his number for people to verify and he's ok with it....

I’m not a basher, just a skeptic. Rough back of the napkin math discussed upthread tells me it doesn’t seem to add up.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #579 on: May 24, 2021, 08:00:35 PM »
seems like if he shares the amount then you will believe him. How's that for good old authentic verification....it's true, I even saw it online.
good point