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Areivim USA is a dignified way to give צדקה. It is not Life Insurance and doesn't guarantee any sort of financial protection to its members. it is registered as a religious organization and as such isn't required to incur the additional cost of preparing and filing form 990 with the IRS.

http://www.areivim.info/rform.php

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I spoke to Areivim at length as I sell life insurance and wanted to best advise ppl that had Areivim already and wanted to supplement it with LI.
I was told that it has never happened that Areivim declined to pay out based on someones assets or LI. It has happened that the family told them they don't need the money, but they never told the family no.
Simple reasoning is, they also think that 100K per yasom doesn't really cover it, the program just won't allow for a higher payout at $28/ monthly. So they encourage everyone to have LI as well to make sure kids are adequetly covered, and owning LI does not disqualify a payout [unless each kid will receive over a million dollars etc].



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They are tax exempt. Click on the below IRS link and then download the first attachment. Then search "Areivim USA"

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/tax-exempt-organization-search-bulk-data-downloads


This (I have been to a few Areivim meeting with these Rabbonim)

Harav Elya Brudny, Rosh Yeshivas Mir Flatbush;
Harav Yitzchok Isaac Eichenstein, Galanter Rav;
Harav Doniel Geldzahler, Rosh Yeshivas Ohr Yisrael;
Harav Binyomin Zev Landau, Tosher Dayan of Boro Park;
Harav Henoch Shachar, Rav of Klal Ohr Tuvia in Lakewood

Areivim Terms and Conditions (emphasis added):
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4) Areivim USA is not life insurance. Areivim USA has been established primarily as a charitable endeavor and its halachic status is like that of all tzedakah money collected from the public. In the event of a the passing of a member r”l, all contributions can be made with maaser money.

5) In the event of (G-d forbid) a large number of deaths among members (as a result of a war, an earthquake, etc.), Areivim USA reserves the right to consult with its Rabbinical Board on proper procedures.

6) Members have no rights to sue or submit legal claims against the decisions of Areivim USA or its Rabbinical Board, including for failure to initiate a collection. There are no oral agreements or other commitments between Areivim USA and its members, and no such oral agreements or commitments shall be given any legal effect.

« Last edited by ExGingi on May 30, 2021, 11:11:03 AM »

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #820 on: July 31, 2022, 05:25:44 PM »
to ensure the money is used properly and doesn't fund something else?
who would fund something else?

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #821 on: July 31, 2022, 05:26:27 PM »
who would fund something else?
A parent or step parent or uncle or married sibling or sibling in law among many others
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #822 on: July 31, 2022, 05:27:37 PM »
Depending on how the beneficiary is structured.
so, how is areivim structured???

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #823 on: July 31, 2022, 05:30:14 PM »
A parent or step parent or uncle or married sibling or sibling in law among many others

so, the “Rav” gets the money and protects it from all these family members. This is great!!!

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #824 on: July 31, 2022, 07:01:31 PM »
so, the “Rav” gets the money and protects it from all these family members. This is great!!!
Did anyone mention that I get a 50% cut?
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #825 on: July 31, 2022, 07:03:24 PM »
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #826 on: July 31, 2022, 07:09:01 PM »

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #827 on: July 31, 2022, 07:12:24 PM »
and the PURPOSE of a "rav" to oversee the collection is?
Your name is not Yosel, your name is Joe the miser

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #828 on: July 31, 2022, 07:20:06 PM »
so, the “Rav” gets the money and protects it from all these family members. This is great!!!
No he just has oversight, but you have your chip on your shoulder and seem to have no interest in the truth anyhow.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #829 on: July 31, 2022, 07:20:23 PM »
Your name is not Yosel, your name is Joe the miser
Miser isn't the right word
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #830 on: July 31, 2022, 08:57:55 PM »
Miser isn't the right word
Only @Yehuda57 can create the perfect riff.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #831 on: July 31, 2022, 09:17:11 PM »
No he just has oversight
100%. The money goes into a trust for the benefit of the orphan. Areivim does not want long term involvement in overseeing the trust, so the family’s Rov oversees.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #832 on: July 31, 2022, 09:51:49 PM »
Did you notice that the Rav is chosen by the family as someone they trust dearly
I wonder how you interpret all the cases of a שליס mentioned in the גמרא

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #833 on: August 01, 2022, 11:31:53 AM »
Did you notice that the Rav is chosen by the family as someone they trust dearly
I wonder how you interpret all the cases of a שליס mentioned in the גמרא
NO, I was not aware of this fact that the family chooses a RAV..... if true, I will change my attitude.

BTW what does the word Miser mean?

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #834 on: August 01, 2022, 12:23:42 PM »
BTW what does the word Miser mean?

It's Yiddish for someone the oilam thinks should be distributing his funds differently.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #835 on: August 01, 2022, 01:15:58 PM »
It's Yiddish for someone the oilam thinks should be distributing his funds differently.
Thanks, and what does "שליס" mean?

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #836 on: August 01, 2022, 01:18:18 PM »
Thanks, and what does "שליס" mean?
It's a type of challah

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #837 on: August 01, 2022, 02:01:06 PM »
Your name is not Yosel, your name is Joe the miser
You can do better than just calling me a name, I just asked a question................... Facts don't care about your feelings.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #838 on: August 01, 2022, 02:04:07 PM »
you have your chip on your shoulder and seem to have no interest in the truth anyhow.
Fact? or allegation ?

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #839 on: August 01, 2022, 02:23:53 PM »
Miser isn't the right word

Only @Yehuda57 can create the perfect riff.

You can do better than just calling me a name, I just asked a question................... Facts don't care about your feelings.

Guys, it's a reference to a story made more famous by Shlomo Carlebach about a Yid who was called "Yossele the Holy Miser". Not to derail the thread, but here is an amazing follow-up to the story