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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2020, 11:13:54 PM »
The numbers are skewed
Skew :
make biased or distorted in a way that is regarded as inaccurate, unfair, or misleading.

A  breakdown of data is important.

Like, NJ failed to report 40-50% of deaths have been in nursing homes.



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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2020, 11:19:30 PM »
Don't they test everyone after death ?

No. Especially earlier in when there was a test shortage
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2020, 11:45:34 PM »
Don't they test everyone after death ?
Don't think they tested people who died at home and in the beginning not people who died in nursing homes either.

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2020, 11:57:44 PM »
Ask anyone on Chevra Kadisha if the numbers are skewed. WAKE UP!

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2020, 12:15:41 AM »
The numbers are skewed
Skew :
make biased or distorted in a way that is regarded as inaccurate, unfair, or misleading.

A  breakdown of data is important.

Like, NJ failed to report 40-50% of deaths have been in nursing homes.

@CountValentine we have goalposts that need to be unshifted.

You start the thread about "skewed numbers" in the context of stories about people without covid getting diagnosed as such for $. Then you post a known grifter tweeting out random numbers about over reporting, though not false reporting. Now "skewed" means we aren't getting enough info about real stats.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2020, 12:20:34 AM »


@CountValentine we have goalposts that need to be unshifted.

You start the thread about "skewed numbers" in the context of stories about people without covid getting diagnosed as such for $. Then you post a known grifter tweeting out random numbers about over reporting, though not false reporting. Now "skewed" means we aren't getting enough info about real stats.

The thread title indicates the topic of the thread.

If you read a dictionary for the word skewed, my posts belong here and would fit into the definition of skewed.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2020, 12:22:39 AM »

The thread title indicates the topic of the thread.

If you read a dictionary for the word skewed, my posts belong here and would fit into the definition of skewed.
Are you seriously. Insinuating. That Covid is less deadly than reported? Is that your argument? I’ll bet you real money if you’d like.

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2020, 12:27:03 AM »
Are you seriously. Insinuating. That Covid is less deadly than reported? Is that your argument? I’ll bet you real money if you’d like.
That's not what I said.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2020, 08:05:53 AM »
That's not what I said.
So then what is your point? That it is worse than we thought?
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2020, 09:33:46 AM »
Numbers are skewed from all other countries globally or at least from some which we are sure they are lying, which might not be the case as we see here in the USA they include every possible death as Covid

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2020, 09:36:57 AM »
Numbers are skewed from all other countries globally or at least from some which we are sure they are lying, which might not be the case as we see here in the USA they include every possible death as Covid
Every possible death? Are you aware that there has been a spike in total deaths, and COVID is NOT posted as the cause of death on all of these extra deaths? There are some unconfirmed COVID deaths that are not being counted.

Where do you get your information from?

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2020, 09:45:40 AM »
Every possible death? Are you aware that there has been a spike in total deaths, and COVID is NOT posted as the cause of death on all of these extra deaths? There are some unconfirmed COVID deaths that are not being counted.

Where do you get your information from?
They are not mutually exclusive, there are many deaths that clearly shouldn't be considered COVID deaths and there are many more deaths than normal and we don't have a good explanation for it. There is a huge issue with the inaccuracies, but adding deaths that were not caused by COVID to the count because we can't figure out why the number of deaths are higher than normal is a great way to make sure you never get accurate data.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2020, 09:50:30 AM »
Every possible death? Are you aware that there has been a spike in total deaths, and COVID is NOT posted as the cause of death on all of these extra deaths? There are some unconfirmed COVID deaths that are not being counted.

Where do you get your information from?

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2020, 09:58:51 AM »
They are not mutually exclusive, there are many deaths that clearly shouldn't be considered COVID deaths and there are many more deaths than normal and we don't have a good explanation for it. There is a huge issue with the inaccuracies, but adding deaths that were not caused by COVID to the count because we can't figure out why the number of deaths are higher than normal is a great way to make sure you never get accurate data.
OP was insinuating that we are greatly overcounting COVID deaths. That assertion seems highly unlikely at best.

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2020, 10:02:35 AM »
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2020, 10:13:10 AM »
OP was insinuating that we are greatly overcounting COVID deaths. That assertion seems highly unlikely at best.
Instead of yelling like a lunatic, why don't you kindly show him that there are more people dying than normal that are not being attributed to COVID?

Maybe they're dying for many reasons due to being locked up? That would be all the more reason to open back up.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2020, 10:17:07 AM »
Instead of yelling like a lunatic, why don't you kindly show him that there are more people dying than normal that are not being attributed to COVID?

Maybe they're dying for many reasons due to being locked up? That would be all the more reason to open back up.
Who’s yelling? I was whispering.

Literally the posts above his showed those exact facts. This seems to go into the category of
Can’t fix stupid
And no, they’re not dying from the lockdown. YOU’RE not stupid, at least that much I know.

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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2020, 10:20:23 AM »
Who’s yelling? I was whispering.

Literally the posts above his showed those exact facts. This seems to go into the category ofAnd no, they’re not dying from the lockdown. YOU’RE not stupid, at least that much I know.

Here's a friendly challenge, since we can't fix stupid anyway. In honor of Lag Ba'omer, let's cut down on the posts. Me and you. First person to 20 posts this week has to donate $100 to the other's tzedaka of choice. You get 20 posts, so good info can still be posted, but if you use them yelling at walls.... that's just a waste. You in?
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2020, 10:22:45 AM »
Who’s yelling? I was whispering.

Literally the posts above his showed those exact facts. This seems to go into the category of And no, they’re not dying from the lockdown. YOU’RE not stupid, at least that much I know.
Why is it that anything that furthers your agenda of continued lockdown is assumed known as fact, while anything to the contrary is assumed false unless it can be proven with a double blind study of 10,000+ participants?

I wonder what the leading cause of excess deaths is, I think it can be very enlightening.
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Re: Covid-19 # are skewed
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2020, 10:24:10 AM »
Here's a friendly challenge, since we can't fix stupid anyway. In honor of Lag Ba'omer, let's cut down on the posts. Me and you. First person to 20 posts this week has to donate $100 to the other's tzedaka of choice. You get 20 posts, so good info can still be posted, but if you use them yelling at walls.... that's just a waste. You in?
i think more then just 2 ppl could use this challange