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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2020, 03:22:21 PM »
זוחלים could be a problem. Also most bathtubs might be too small to physically fully submerse.
זוחלים? If you put down the plug and turn off the faucet?

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2020, 03:32:23 PM »
So why doesn't anyone just fill up a bath and use that as a men's mikvah since שאובים is not really a problem for a men's mikvah?Some bathtubs are pretty big.
if u have a large enough bathtub (335 liter acc to reb chaim naeh) and u put a good stopper in, then for basic tvilas ezra its good. dono though about "tosefes kdusha"

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2020, 03:34:14 PM »
זוחלים? If you put down the plug and turn off the faucet?
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זוחלים means flowing out, not flowing in.
the plug would be fine, the faucet makes no difference

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2020, 03:36:29 PM »
So why doesn't anyone just fill up a bath and use that as a men's mikvah since שאובים is not really a problem for a men's mikvah?Some bathtubs are pretty big.
Most tubs aren't 40 saah and would be hard to immerse in.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2020, 03:38:47 PM »
+.5
זוחלים means flowing out, not flowing in.
the plug would be fine, the faucet makes no difference

1. Plug might be מקבל טומאה.
2. Many plugs might have a tiny leak that would render it זוחלים.
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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2020, 03:49:07 PM »
if u have a large enough bathtub (335 liter acc to reb chaim naeh) and u put a good stopper in, then for basic tvilas ezra its good. dono though about "tosefes kdusha"
Most tubs aren't 40 saah and would be hard to immerse in.
335 Liters is 88 gallons. I think that newer houses in Lakewood may have bigger bathtubs than that in the master bedroom. I would have to measure mine.
1. Plug might be מקבל טומאה.
2. Many plugs might have a tiny leak that would render it זוחלים.
1. Plug handle is metal, but the part that stops the water from going out is rubber. Not sure if that matters.
2. You could never know, but why should you be choishesh by a Rabunon (Is zochlim a rabunon) ?

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2020, 03:53:28 PM »
1. Plug handle is metal, but the part that stops the water from going out is rubber. Not sure if that matters.
2. You could never know, but why should you be choishesh by a Rabunon (Is zochlim a rabunon) ?

1. Many hold that rubber is מקבל טומאה.
2. IINM if it's זוחלין then it doesn't have an advantage over תשעה קבין and might be even less.
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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2020, 03:58:36 PM »
1. Many hold that rubber is מקבל טומאה.
2. IINM if it's זוחלין then it doesn't have an advantage over תשעה קבין and might be even less.
Mine measures roughly 80 gallons. And it's fairly large IMO.

I was saying the whole time that taking a shower made more sense, but I was getting mixed messages from others here.

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2020, 05:00:55 PM »
Mine measures roughly 80 gallons.
standard tub. Larger tubs are 100gal

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2020, 05:29:10 PM »
standard tub. Larger tubs are 100gal
is that when it’s full to the top?

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2020, 05:30:28 PM »
zochalin is דאורייתא, nine kavin is much better than nothing
a rubber plug is not a kli because it is not meant to hold anything inside, and because its only use is when מחובר לקרקע
@ExGingi  even if rubber is mekabel tumah (source?), if there is no בית קיבול its not mekabel tumah (exept metal)
if it actually leaks, even a drop its zochalin, thats why i wrote "if u have a good plug"
@yelped i would imagine that the metal handle doesnt make the rubber plug a kli because its only משמש the rubber and isnt the עיקר, not 100% sure
@Dan i have the new standard  israeli bathtub at home and its not 335 liters, dont know whats standard in usa

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #131 on: May 04, 2020, 05:43:31 PM »
The eBay link I posted above was for $25 (in Detroit). I've found something in NJ on eBay for around $60.
Link?

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #133 on: May 04, 2020, 05:58:33 PM »
For example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBC-Tote-275-Gallon-Liquid-Storage/124172120943?hash=item1ce93c336f:g:xuwAAOSwTqBeq9w-
guys go for it!
its so easy to have youre own mikva.
anyone who needs יעוץ on how to actually convert it into a mens mikva is welcome to pm me

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #135 on: May 04, 2020, 06:11:33 PM »
a rubber plug is not a kli because it is not meant to hold anything inside, and because its only use is when מחובר לקרקע
@ExGingi  even if rubber is mekabel tumah (source?), if there is no בית קיבול its not mekabel tumah (exept metal)

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #136 on: May 04, 2020, 06:13:34 PM »
guys go for it!
its so easy to have youre own mikva.
anyone who needs יעוץ on how to actually convert it into a mens mikva is welcome to pm me

Could you post publicly here in detail (maybe with pictures) what you did for heater and filter/pump. What do you do about the faucet at the bottom?
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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #137 on: May 04, 2020, 06:15:12 PM »
Since they are used you might want to inquire what was stored in them.
That specific listing says silicone. I saw a listing that said water for $100 each.

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #138 on: May 04, 2020, 06:24:55 PM »
Since they are used you might want to inquire what was stored in them.
what could be stored in them that would stop u from buying it, holy water blessed by DJT?

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Re: What are MEN in the USA that usually go to the Mikvah daily doing?
« Reply #139 on: May 04, 2020, 06:33:47 PM »
http://chabadlibrarybooks.com/pdfpager.aspx?req=30479&st=&pgnum=91


interesting, רבינו נבג"מ is one of the chabad rebbes?
i would love to see the source where רבינו נבג"מ says this, what youre quoting is a ליקוט מנהגים