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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #120 on: May 11, 2020, 10:50:43 AM »
If a kid can have this and antibodies, then other kids with antibodies tells us nothing about whether this is COVID related.
But if a very high percentage of kids in NY have antibodies, then the fact that these kids do might not mean much. For all we know ALL our kids had covid without symptoms before schools closed down.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2020, 10:51:31 AM »
I assume he is
I made it very clear in this thread that I thought this was something very worrying. I just found it curious that this only came up now 6 months after the virus has been spreading around the world.

My apologies if I come off as anything but curious.

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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #122 on: May 11, 2020, 10:51:40 AM »
There is a link between D deficiency and Kawasaki.
BTW this theory could explain the high concentration of  cases in NYC, where quarantined children have less access to backyards.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #123 on: May 11, 2020, 10:54:47 AM »
I made it very clear in this thread that I thought this was something very worrying. I just found it curious that this only came up now 6 months after the virus has been spreading around the world.

My apologies if I come off as anything but curious.
No need to apologize it’s good for debate if there are some participants with beliefs at extreme ends of the argument
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #124 on: May 11, 2020, 10:55:43 AM »
No need to apologize it’s good for debate if there are some participants with beliefs at extreme ends of the argument
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #126 on: May 11, 2020, 10:57:02 AM »
I hope you’re not referring to me..
I wasn't referring to anyone specific.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #127 on: May 11, 2020, 10:57:51 AM »
But if a very high percentage of kids in NY have antibodies, then the fact that these kids do might not mean much. For all we know ALL our kids had covid without symptoms before schools closed down.

It might or might not be related to COVID, we don’t know. Other kids with antibodies might mean it’s unrelated, or it might not.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #128 on: May 11, 2020, 10:58:39 AM »
In this case, the child tested negative for COVID-19, however the family is awaiting antibody results. I think Dr. Shanik wasn't clear here.
Apparently, Dr. Shanik was referring to a different child.

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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #129 on: May 11, 2020, 10:59:37 AM »
It might or might not be related to COVID, we don’t know. Other kids with antibodies might mean it’s unrelated, or it might not.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #130 on: May 11, 2020, 11:00:52 AM »
It might or might not be related to COVID, we don’t know. Other kids with antibodies might mean it’s unrelated, or it might not.
Some are using the link of high rates of COVID or antibodies present in the children with Kawasaki to suggest causation. @etech0 is proposing that if there is a high rate of COVID or antibodies present in children across the board in NY then it can’t be used as supportive evidence of there being a link.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #131 on: May 11, 2020, 11:01:13 AM »
Some are using the link of high rates of COVID or antibodies present in the children with Kawasaki to make a link. @etech0 is suggesting that if there is a high rate of COVID or antibodies present in children across the board in NY then it can’t be used as supportive evidence of there being a link.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #132 on: May 11, 2020, 11:02:23 AM »
Some are using the link of high rates of COVID or antibodies present in the children with Kawasaki to suggest causation. @etech0 is proposing that if there is a high rate of COVID or antibodies present in children across the board in NY then it can’t be used as supportive evidence of there being a link.
Basically we have no clue..

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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #133 on: May 11, 2020, 11:03:09 AM »
Basically we have no clue..
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #134 on: May 11, 2020, 11:03:20 AM »
Some are using the link of high rates of COVID or antibodies present in the children with Kawasaki to suggest causation. @etech0 is proposing that if there is a high rate of COVID or antibodies present in children across the board in NY then it can’t be used as supportive evidence of there being a link.

Isn’t this the classic “correlation doesn’t equal causation”? All I’m saying is it doesn’t rule out causation, it just doesn’t prove it.
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #135 on: May 11, 2020, 11:04:18 AM »
Isn’t this the classic “correlation doesn’t equal causation”? All I’m saying is it doesn’t rule out causation, it just doesn’t prove it.
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« Reply #136 on: May 11, 2020, 02:41:44 PM »
Isn’t this the classic “correlation doesn’t equal causation”? All I’m saying is it doesn’t rule out causation, it just doesn’t prove it.
Which leaves us to ponder: what could that third variable be?
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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #137 on: May 11, 2020, 02:55:57 PM »
Isn’t this the classic “correlation doesn’t equal causation”?

No, if 90% of kids in NY have had Covid-19 and 90% of kids with Kawasaki have had Covid-19, then there is no correlation either.

(I picked the number 90% out of a hat)

All I’m saying is it doesn’t rule out causation, it just doesn’t prove it.

Right.

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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #138 on: May 11, 2020, 08:46:56 PM »
I just heard a Hospital director saying on CNN that 100% of the kawasaki patients in his hospital have Covid antibodies.

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Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
« Reply #139 on: May 11, 2020, 10:08:38 PM »
Which leaves us to ponder: what could that third variable be?
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