5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)

[NTorch]

Psychologically, the message needs to be changed. If you keep saying everything is status quo and we don't know when it will be different, people just stop listening.

Is that how Halacha works?

I don't know that he's wrong - its not about the halacha, its the method and delivery of the psak. You can tell your kids "no" in different ways and the method of delivery will impact on their acceptance and obedience.

However, he is not correct about the language of this statement by the Rabbanim. The message from the Rabbanim is not "status quo and we dont know when it will change" that was one sentence in the middle of the statement. The larger message was that although we all very much want minyanim, the Drs say its not safe and Pikuach Nefesh is above all.

Like most, I very much miss my shul. Other than travel related issues, I had not missed a shacharis with a minyan since my youngest was born 15 years ago. I was part of a regular nightly daf since 2005 (although that at least we do by phone conference 6 nights a week) and I lain a few times a week. I really miss being in shul.

But having said that, I understand and accept that my Rav and the other Rabbanim in Long Island know halacha and know what's best for the community. If they say no porch or basement minyanim, that's the psak.

[ushdadude]

Is that how Halacha works?

actually, yes. do you know any Rav who says not to use non-jewish oil nowadays?

But that really wasn't my point.

I don't know that he's wrong - its not about the halacha, its the method and delivery of the psak. You can tell your kids "no" in different ways and the method of delivery will impact on their acceptance and obedience.

this was.
although i wasn't specifically referring to the Rabbanim.

[momo]

there should be some news on the minyan front forthcoming shortly.

[JMHO]

there should be some news on the minyan front forthcoming shortly.

Tomorrow I"yh

[ushdadude]

there should be some news on the minyan front forthcoming shortly.

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[NTorch]

there should be some news on the minyan front forthcoming shortly.

I was not on the call, but I am aware that at 1PM the OU had a teleconference with many shuls about reopening measures and that Dr Fauchi was on the call as well.

The only other thing I know about the call is that it went past 3PM.

[Afrages6]

I was not on the call, but I am aware that at 1PM the OU had a teleconference with many shuls about reopening measures and that Dr Fauchi was on the call as well.

The only other thing I know about the call is that it went past 3PM.

The call was 30 minutes and there was no substance. Fauci seemed really confused about what we do in shul and was asking questions which no one seemed interested in answering.

[Sam Finkelstein]

The call was 30 minutes and there was no substance. Fauci seemed really confused about what we do in shul and was asking questions which no one seemed interested in answering.

Well that's a bummer.

[NTorch]

The call was 30 minutes and there was no substance. Fauci seemed really confused about what we do in shul and was asking questions which no one seemed interested in answering.

I hope that the second half of your summary (no one seemed interested in answer Dr Fauci's questions) was in jest.

[momo]

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Excellent question. I’m not sure why nothing has gone out. I’ll hopefully have more info tonight.

[ethana]

I hope someone mentioned chulent

[ethana]

Excellent question. I’m not sure why nothing has gone out. I’ll hopefully have more info tonight.

If there was nothing of substance discussed why would something go out...

[Afrages6]

I hope that the second half of your summary (no one seemed interested in answer Dr Fauci's questions) was in jest.

I wish. The whole thing about 1 time 5 days a week was fauci asking if that’s something that made sense and they just said okay and moved on.

[Sam Finkelstein]

https://www.jta.org/2020/05/07/united-states/fauci-to-orthodox-jews-ease-into-communal-prayer-as-gatherings-become-possible

[momo]

If there was nothing of substance discussed why would something go out...

There was obviously something of substance discussed, or I wouldn’t have posted.

[S209]

There was obviously something of substance discussed, or I wouldn’t have posted.

What is the maskana? Are shuls going to open? Also, what do the Rabbanim say? Is this national?

[sammyp]

https://www.jta.org/2020/05/07/united-states/fauci-to-orthodox-jews-ease-into-communal-prayer-as-gatherings-become-possible

That article says it all. When the government opens and everyone is back together the OU says they will keep their synagogues closed rwo extra week. When the government says six feet, thye say eight.

I am glad I don't daven in an OU synagogue!

I don't know if what happened on that call, but some cities opened today officially. In Texas most souls opened for sure, even the OU ones.

Fauci happens to be a liberal. When he's not surrounded by Republucans to keep him in check, he goes way left. Does he really think people are gonna stay in quaranteen through the fall?

[S209]

That article says it all. When the government opens and everyone is back together the OU says they will keep their synagogues closed rwo extra week. When the government says six feet, thye say eight.

I am glad I don't daven in an OU synagogue!

I don't know if what happened on that call, but some cities opened today officially. In Texas most souls opened for sure, even the OU ones.

Fauci happens to be a liberal. When he's not surrounded by Republucans to keep him in check, he goes way left. Does he really think people are gonna stay in quaranteen through the fall?

Because we’re not supposed to be more machmir on Pikuach Nefesh than the government is? Because standing 8 feet away is more bedieved than 6 feet? At least you don’t eat cholent.

I really don’t understand your argument that we shouldn’t at least be trying to social distance to the extent possible at all. Or do you not have one? Is your agenda purely to bash the leadership of a very large respected segment of Frum Yidden?

[yitzgar]

Fauci must be a liberal if he didn't tell them to ban cholent....

[NTorch]

Fauci must be a liberal if he didn't tell them to ban cholent....

Or maybe he knows what's good for the heart.