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Author Topic: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)  (Read 33116 times)

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https://5townscentral.com/2020/05/15/covid-19-update-may-15-from-dr-aaron-glattmd/
So the minyan ban seems to be based on a strict interpretation of the law, not medical advice anymore. Maybe lawyers sold be consulted instead of just doctors.

Further, individuals should not gather in houses of worship, homes,

Lawyers are heavily involved statewide. This is not a local issue.

According to the Governor's office, there is nothing illegal with an outdoor minyan in front of house, even using sidewalks or streets. As I said, backyards are more complicated. The Governor left it up to local officials to interpret these laws (about backyards) and what they feel they should or should not enforce.

This is all being worked on. It would have been fixed already if one local Rabbi would not have intervened and counteracted all of the work. But it should be taken care of soon.

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Thanks for the updates. Is your info reliable? What else do you know?

Any NYS info would be helpful, not just 5T.
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https://5townscentral.com/2020/05/15/covid-19-update-may-15-from-dr-aaron-glattmd/
So the minyan ban seems to be based on a strict interpretation of the law, not medical advice anymore. Maybe lawyers sold be consulted instead of just doctors.
Very informative piece with lots of medical knowledge.
Thanks for posting!

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So I went to a street minyan in far Rockaway and I wasnít sure if it was legal so I answered amen yehei shmei rabba in question form, does that make it ok?
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Very informative piece with lots of medical knowledge.
Thanks for posting!
I would advise you to do some research. Mnay doctors and health experts have a very different outlook.

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Thanks for the updates. Is your info reliable? What else do you know?

Any NYS info would be helpful, not just 5T.

We BH have people on Albany including some highly qualified and well connected representatives from the Aguda who are working very hard on this.

There should be new developments soon. Like Batei Medrash should be able to open any day now. The law right now only prohibits prayer gathering in synagogues. There seems to be no law or objection to learning there without any classes or prayers.

They are working very hard. We are hoping and praying nobody intervenes, especially anybody bearing the title "Rabbi" who presents to these government officials a very different picture than it really is.

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Thanks!

Happy to hear itís being worked on.
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I would advise you to do some research. Mnay doctors and health experts have a very different outlook.
On the medical aspects? Where?
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This is great. Thanks for posting. Really informative and helpful.
Very informative piece with lots of medical knowledge.
Thanks for posting!


To be honest, I stopped reading after the first 3 paragraphs. They turned me off from continuing
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To be honest, I stopped reading after the first 3 paragraphs. They turned me off from continuing

You should read the rest. It helps put the first three paragraphs into context.
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To be honest, I stopped reading after the first 3 paragraphs. They turned me off from continuing
I didnít even read that part. Read the rest.
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You should read the rest. It helps put the first three paragraphs into context.

The agenda is clear from the first part. Once there is an agenda, everything else is irrelevant.

Look at this, especially paragraph 10 https://5townscentral.com/2020/05/14/covid-19-village-of-lawrence-safety-report/

And this https://matzav.com/op-ed-best-approach-to-the-coronavirus-crisis-hint-weve-thus-far-gotten-it-wrong/

There's a lot more out there too....

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The agenda is clear from the first part. Once there is an agenda, everything else is irrelevant.

Look at this, especially paragraph 10 https://5townscentral.com/2020/05/14/covid-19-village-of-lawrence-safety-report/

And this https://matzav.com/op-ed-best-approach-to-the-coronavirus-crisis-hint-weve-thus-far-gotten-it-wrong/

There's a lot more out there too....
The rest is positive news, not negative. Did you read it?
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The rest is positive news, not negative. Did you read it?
We finally agree on something!

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We finally agree on something!
I bet we agree on a lot more things than you think
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I bet we agree on a lot more things than you think
Youíre probably right. I thought this was a very well written and positive article from someone that I have criticized many times here.

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The agenda is clear from the first part. Once there is an agenda, everything else is irrelevant.

Look at this, especially paragraph 10 https://5townscentral.com/2020/05/14/covid-19-village-of-lawrence-safety-report/

And this https://matzav.com/op-ed-best-approach-to-the-coronavirus-crisis-hint-weve-thus-far-gotten-it-wrong/

There's a lot more out there too....
The opinion piece on Matzav was pure, unadulterated junk. Total hogwash, riddled with falsehoods, plenty of political nonsense, and wholly illogical.

The piece on 5 towns central was an opinion piece as well, but it was thought provoking and well written, by someone who seemed to be well versed in medicine without a clear aim (though he obviously espouses returning to normal sooner rather than later). I do find it interesting that he repeats a few times that there is NO certainty of immunity or itís parameters, despite you having posted quite a few times that there is no argument among doctors and immunity is a certainty.. still, thank you, it was interesting to read.
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You should read the rest. It helps put the first three paragraphs into context.
The rest is positive news, not negative. Did you read it?
Rest was pretty good
But there is a strong disconnect between first section and the medical part



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Rest was pretty good
But there is a strong disconnect between first section and the medical part
I am looking to him as an expert in infectious disease (which he is) not as my personal spiritual guide (which he is not).
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