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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #120 on: May 22, 2020, 03:28:21 PM »
Not enough people to test?
As noted above, they are actively discouraging testing when mere days before some places were making testing mandatory with antibody testing
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #121 on: May 22, 2020, 03:35:22 PM »
As noted above, they are actively discouraging testing when mere days before some places were making testing mandatory with antibody testing
Maybe it's to weed out all the "new cases" that really are old cases only getting tested now.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #122 on: May 22, 2020, 03:36:43 PM »
Maybe it's to weed out all the "new cases" that really are old cases only getting tested now.
That's what I think.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #123 on: May 22, 2020, 03:39:55 PM »
2205. Additional 11 cases. Consistently low rolling average.

2237. Additional 32 positives since yesterday.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #124 on: May 22, 2020, 03:57:02 PM »
Maybe it's to weed out all the "new cases" that really are old cases only getting tested now.
How is it doing that
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #125 on: May 22, 2020, 04:12:50 PM »
Are we going to have to delve into conspiracy theories now to explain the discouragement of testing?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #126 on: May 22, 2020, 04:13:19 PM »
How is it doing that
Less testing =less positives?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #127 on: May 22, 2020, 04:14:49 PM »
How is it doing that
By not testing people who believe they had it months ago, instead only testing them for antibodies.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #128 on: May 22, 2020, 05:44:21 PM »
Chai care doesn't have a monopoly here you can go to others, there are so many urgent cares around that would be more then happy to poke you and your kids, just make sure they use FDA approved tests

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #129 on: May 22, 2020, 05:45:54 PM »
Is it only chai care discouraging it?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #130 on: May 23, 2020, 10:01:03 PM »
2237. Additional 32 positives since yesterday.
2239. Only 2 positives. Seems to dip on the weekends. Rolling average is the way to go.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #131 on: May 23, 2020, 11:07:33 PM »
Is it only chai care discouraging it?
I was discouraged at friendly urgent care in Lakewood.
Antibody came back negative

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #132 on: May 23, 2020, 11:18:15 PM »
I get why they don't want unnecessary positives, but it isn't testing the only way to really get a handle on this?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #133 on: May 23, 2020, 11:38:59 PM »
I get why they don't want unnecessary positives, but it isn't testing the only way to really get a handle on this?
Unnecesaary positives will only make it harder to discern a rise in new cases. At this point if they limit tests to people who actively have symptoms or have been exposed to people with symptoms we'll find the new cases. Because we have the capacity, we can immediately increase testing as soon as there is reason to.

Disclaimer: This is my own theory, feel free to disagree.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #134 on: May 23, 2020, 11:55:26 PM »
Unnecesaary positives will only make it harder to discern a rise in new cases. At this point if they limit tests to people who actively have symptoms or have been exposed to people with symptoms we'll find the new cases. Because we have the capacity, we can immediately increase testing as soon as there is reason to.

Disclaimer: This is my own theory, feel free to disagree.
Isn't the whole point to catch asymptomatic cases before they start spreading it, since the most infectious time is prior to onset of symptoms?



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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #135 on: May 23, 2020, 11:56:27 PM »
Unnecesaary positives will only make it harder to discern a rise in new cases. At this point if they limit tests to people who actively have symptoms or have been exposed to people with symptoms we'll find the new cases. Because we have the capacity, we can immediately increase testing as soon as there is reason to.

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Ok. I get that. However my doctor will only allow us to start interacting with married kids, etc if everyone tests negative.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #136 on: May 24, 2020, 12:12:36 AM »
Unnecesaary positives will only make it harder to discern a rise in new cases. At this point if they limit tests to people who actively have symptoms or have been exposed to people with symptoms we'll find the new cases. Because we have the capacity, we can immediately increase testing as soon as there is reason to.

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Mass randomized testing is the only way to catch it before there is some serious spread, as you will need to wait for the test of a symptomatic patient showing up positive before we catch it, while there could have been an week or two after incubation plus asymptomatic people spreading it around. Especially without adequate contact tracing, as is the case for most of the US.

An easy place to start mass testing would be anybody showing up to check for antibodies. Mandate a COVID swab test as well and youíll have people constantly being checked for COVID. Bonus- itíll only be people who havenít been proven to have antibodies yet! For example, this guy should have tested
I was discouraged at friendly urgent care in Lakewood.
Antibody came back negative
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #137 on: May 24, 2020, 03:50:15 AM »
Mass randomized testing is the only way to catch it before there is some serious spread, as you will need to wait for the test of a symptomatic patient showing up positive before we catch it, while there could have been an week or two after incubation plus asymptomatic people spreading it around. Especially without adequate contact tracing, as is the case for most of the US.

An easy place to start mass testing would be anybody showing up to check for antibodies. Mandate a COVID swab test as well and youíll have people constantly being checked for COVID. Bonus- itíll only be people who havenít been proven to have antibodies yet! For example, this guy should have tested
Sewage sampling accomplishes this perfectly.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #138 on: May 24, 2020, 04:55:03 AM »
Unnecesaary positives will only make it harder to discern a rise in new cases. At this point if they limit tests to people who actively have symptoms or have been exposed to people with symptoms we'll find the new cases. Because we have the capacity, we can immediately increase testing as soon as there is reason to.

Disclaimer: This is my own theory, feel free to disagree.

Just test everyone who asks. If COVID is really declining to nothing in Lakewood then there wonít be that many older cases asking to get tested, that will be testing positive. And whoever does ask, will get tested now and be done with for good. And we wonít risk a 2nd wave just to keep the numbers down.

Donít test donít tell brought on the first wave, and will be the cause of a potential 2nd wave. 

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #139 on: May 24, 2020, 06:08:14 PM »
2239. Only 2 positives. Seems to dip on the weekends. Rolling average is the way to go.
2256. Another 17 positives since yesterday. Consistent rolling average of new daily #ís in the teens for around 2 weeks now in Lakewood .