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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #140 on: May 25, 2020, 04:31:33 PM »
2256. Another 17 positives since yesterday. Consistent rolling average of new daily #’s in the teens for around 2 weeks now in Lakewood .
2263. 7 additional positives.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2020, 06:15:36 PM »
2263. 7 additional positives.
2276. 13 positives in Lakewood since yesterday.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #142 on: May 27, 2020, 11:34:25 PM »


At 2:34:28 Rabbi Rotberg says he knows 2 families that are sick with covid for the first time

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #143 on: May 27, 2020, 11:39:43 PM »
Sick or tested positive?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #144 on: May 27, 2020, 11:44:35 PM »
Sick or tested positive?
Watch. He says both families have just tested positive for the first time and their whole families are sick.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #145 on: May 27, 2020, 11:46:08 PM »
Sick or tested positive?
He doesnt say where, though

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« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2020, 11:48:28 PM »
He doesnt say where, though
True, I noticed that. He is a Rav in Toms River but the families could be in LA or Detroit honestly. Would be a bit disingenuous if they’re not in his neighborhood though because he was addressing his Shul.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2020, 11:50:19 PM »
True, I noticed that. He is a Rav in Toms River but the families could be in LA or Detroit honestly. Would be a bit disingenuous if they’re not in his neighborhood though because he was addressing his Shul.
He is a Rov for Lakewood Hatzolah as well. So i would presume it is Lakewood area but may not be his shul.
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« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2020, 11:52:21 PM »
He is a Rov for Lakewood Hatzolah as well. So i would presume it is Lakewood area but may not be his shul.
That broadens the horizons on how he may know of these people (maybe through Hatzalah calls) although he calls them friends.
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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #149 on: May 28, 2020, 12:12:14 AM »
Dr. Lempel (Lakewood) said on Monday that he's still getting Covid-19 patients although no new hospitalizations.

I'm wondering if SD is impacting viral loads so most new cases are low viral loads and therefore very low hospitalization rate. Can't think of another reason why the rate is so low.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #150 on: May 28, 2020, 12:13:49 AM »
Rabbi Rottbergs circle extends beyond Toms River/Lakewood so not much of a datapoint without location of the family, did they observe a strict quarantine, were they recently in a location where the virus is still ongoing etc.

The Lakewood medical practitioners have recently started to develop very decent coordination and sharing of info so if there would be an upswing in cases it should be known fairly quickly....

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #151 on: May 28, 2020, 12:16:56 AM »
Dr. Lempel (Lakewood) said on Monday that he's still getting Covid-19 patients although no new hospitalizations.

I'm wondering if SD is impacting viral loads so most new cases are low viral loads and therefore very low hospitalization rate. Can't think of another reason why the rate is so low.
May also be because high risk individuals are being very cautious so the new cases would be younger low risk people

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #152 on: May 28, 2020, 12:21:59 AM »
High risk individuals are generally being more cautious along with the fact that we continue to see under 20 new positive tests daily. The percent of positives in the general population that are hospitalized is minuscule so one would not expect to see significant hospitalizations unless new numbers increase dramatically.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #153 on: May 28, 2020, 12:29:10 AM »
Dr. Lempel (Lakewood) said on Monday that he's still getting Covid-19 patients although no new hospitalizations.

I'm wondering if SD is impacting viral loads so most new cases are low viral loads and therefore very low hospitalization rate. Can't think of another reason why the rate is so low.
Viruses often mutate. It could be that it is growing weaker with the passage of time.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #154 on: May 28, 2020, 12:35:00 AM »
High risk individuals are generally being more cautious along with the fact that we continue to see under 20 new positive tests daily. The percent of positives in the general population that are hospitalized is minuscule so one would not expect to see significant hospitalizations unless new numbers increase dramatically.
Hospitalization rates in symptomatic patients of all ages are relatively high, if there is a steady flow to doctors of new cases (that would mean symptomatic) we should be seeing some hospitalizations.
Viruses often mutate. It could be that it is growing weaker with the passage of time.
I want to believe this is the case.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #155 on: May 28, 2020, 12:45:44 AM »
Hospitalization rates in symptomatic patients of all ages are relatively high, if there is a steady flow to doctors of new cases (that would mean symptomatic) we should be seeing some hospitalizations.I want to believe this is the case.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
Symptomatic hospitalizations are estimated to be around .034 for all ages (take CDC data for what it’s worth). Take out the long term care population, and the vulnerable who are still strictly quarantining and it’s probably somewhere around .01- .02
You would have to see hundreds of symptomatic patients to expect meaningful hospitalization numbers.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #156 on: May 28, 2020, 05:38:52 AM »
Viruses often mutate. It could be that it is growing weaker with the passage of time.
New strains are being constantly monitored and published, and there is zero evidence of that. https://nextstrain.org

Lower hospitalization rate is solely because of higher testing rates, diluting the percentage of severe symptoms.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #157 on: May 28, 2020, 07:38:21 AM »
New strains are being constantly monitored and published, and there is zero evidence of that. https://nextstrain.org

Lower hospitalization rate is solely because of higher testing rates, diluting the percentage of severe symptoms.
Also because of early intervention and monitoring of O/Sat levels. If it gets too low doctors will put them on oxygen compressors.

Getting it now is much different then people who were getting it two months ago.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
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