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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #220 on: June 03, 2020, 11:28:03 AM »
IF they stay within the legal limits, there will be much less spreading than if they don't

Yeah that's number 4
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #221 on: June 03, 2020, 11:29:37 AM »
All of these are good points other than 2.

The biggest causes of mass spreading are most likely offices, shuls, and batei medrash (and the like)
I updated it. Weddings are definitely a big cause of mass spreading in our community, and sports games are probably a bigger cause of mass spread outside our community.

Shuls etc. are usually the same group of people, so if 1 person spreads it most of those who get aren't likely to spread it to a new group. Obviously the more groups and the bigger the group each person is part of the more it will spread. This is also the issue with minyan factories.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #222 on: June 03, 2020, 11:33:52 AM »
I updated it. Weddings are definitely a big cause of mass spreading in our community, and sports games are probably a bigger cause of mass spread outside our community.

Shuls etc. are usually the same group of people, so if 1 person spreads it most of those who get aren't likely to spread it to a new group. Obviously the more groups and the bigger the group each person is part of the more it will spread. This is also the issue with minyan factories.
Yes weddings probably are but are also mostly family and friends who already associate with each other.

That is unless they daven in more than one place, go to an office, learn in a differnt bais medrash or more than one.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #223 on: June 03, 2020, 11:42:19 AM »
Shuls in Lakewood do not strictlyly contain the same group of people, e.g. people having relatives over for shabbos, chavrusas coming from across town to daven in the shul, amongst many other scenarios.

A scenario where it can leak: father davens in shul -> catches it from another member -> transfers to child who goes to camp/school ->  child transfers to 10 other kids/teachers -> transfers it to their respective families -> fathers spread it in shul.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #224 on: June 03, 2020, 11:58:02 AM »
Yes weddings probably are but are also mostly family and friends who already associate with each other.

That is unless they daven in more than one place, go to an office, learn in a differnt bais medrash or more than one.
Between 2 completely separate families and all of their family and friends who they don't regularly come in contact with, there is definitely spread to many people who wouldn't otherwise come in contact with each other.
Shuls in Lakewood do not contain strictly the same group of people, e.g. people having relatives over for shabbos, chavrusas coming from across town to daven in the shul, amongst many other scenarios.

A scenario where it can leak: father davens in shul -> catches it from another member -> transfers to child who goes to camp/school ->  child transfers to 10 other kids/teachers -> transfers it to their respective families -> fathers spread it in shul.
The point is to slow the spread and keep it under control, not to stop it completely. Of course there are other people from outside there, but most of the people are from the same group. Same goes for your scenario where it can leak, 5 steps takes much longer than 1 or 2 steps.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2020, 11:59:10 AM »
Between 2 completely separate families and all of their family and friends who they don't regularly come in contact with, there is definitely spread to many people who wouldn't otherwise come in contact with each other. The point is to slow the spread and keep it under control, not to stop it completely. Of course there are other people from outside there, but most of the people are from the same group. Same goes for your scenario where it can leak, 5 steps takes much longer than 1 or 2 steps.

Yes as in many scenarios with shuls/yeshivos/etc.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2020, 12:24:22 PM »
Yes as in many scenarios with shuls/yeshivos/etc.
Agreed, but it's one more place where it won't spread as much. Nothing that I posted is foolproof or anywhere near that, but collectively they slow the spread significantly.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2020, 01:00:33 PM »
Agreed, but it's one more place where it won't spread as much. Nothing that I posted is foolproof or anywhere near that, but collectively they slow the spread significantly.
Yes, any small item helps slow the spread. Some more than others.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #228 on: June 08, 2020, 11:18:41 PM »
Relative got a call from the Health Department today. Contact tracer for a positive test from six weeks ago....

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #229 on: June 08, 2020, 11:33:59 PM »
Relative got a call from the Health Department today. Contact tracer for a positive test from six weeks ago....

Retarded waste of resources. As if anything they ask or tell him will make a difference now...

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #230 on: June 09, 2020, 04:29:50 PM »
Relative got a call from the Health Department today. Contact tracer for a positive test from six weeks ago....
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #231 on: June 19, 2020, 04:50:59 PM »

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #232 on: June 19, 2020, 05:02:21 PM »
Lakewood seems to have a race to the bottom for "news" sites.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #233 on: July 01, 2020, 05:01:21 PM »
BREAKING: I have a reliable report that there seems to be a COVID resurgence beginning in Lakewood. Five frum community members tested positive yesterday, and 5 new cases are pending today. A FRUM MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOW IN THE ICU. Another frum man, from Florida, worked in a large Lakewood day camp and had close contact with many people, and he just tested positive.

Guys, it's crazy how we are throwing caution to the wind. This seems to be a major issue. Please spread the word to anyone you know, so that they can take all needed precautions.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #234 on: July 01, 2020, 05:10:57 PM »

I can confirm, I know which day camp this is. Itís 100% true.

Guys. Please use your brains.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #235 on: July 01, 2020, 05:12:04 PM »
I can confirm, I know which day camp this is. Itís 100% true.

Guys. Please use your brains.
A family member of mine did predict this last week. Said that they were worried people from Florida were gonna reintroduce the virus into our neighborhoods chĒv

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #236 on: July 01, 2020, 05:14:13 PM »
A family member of mine did predict this last week. Said that they were worried people from Florida were gonna reintroduce the virus into our neighborhoods chĒv
I really donít get why we canít just use seichel. We are (or were) clearly not in the same place as Purim time, and by just being smart we could (have?) keep(t?) this under control. A few cases isnít the end of the world. A new outbreak is.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #237 on: July 01, 2020, 05:16:50 PM »
A family member of mine did predict this last week. Said that they were worried people from Florida were gonna reintroduce the virus into our neighborhoods chĒv

Many of us were predicting this, but thankfully we were wrong until now. I will happily eat crow because I truly expected to see more cases at an earlier date. I think we can control this outbreak but people need to be cautious again.
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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #238 on: July 01, 2020, 05:35:46 PM »
I really donít get why we canít just use seichel. We are (or were) clearly not in the same place as Purim time, and by just being smart we could (have?) keep(t?) this under control. A few cases isnít the end of the world. A new outbreak is.
Maybe the rabbonim will actually say something this time around before it gets out of hand? Hahaha who am I fooling.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #239 on: July 01, 2020, 05:40:20 PM »
Maybe the rabbonim will actually say something this time around before it gets out of hand? Hahaha who am I fooling.
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