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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #260 on: July 01, 2020, 08:58:13 PM »
When the orange and red amounts to meaningful numbers not just more or less than before
In other words, too late.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #261 on: July 01, 2020, 09:01:29 PM »
If Rabbi Yisroel Reisman would be a rov in Lakewood and would hear about an uptick, he would demand that everyone in his shul start wearing masks and maintaining a reasonable distance.

You are naive if you think that every Lakewood rov is like him, but you are foolish if you think that there are no Lakewood rabbonim like him.

Speak to your rov. He may not do anything. But if he does, you can save lives. It seems almost certain.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #262 on: July 01, 2020, 09:06:23 PM »
If Rabbi Yisroel Reisman would be a rov in Lakewood and would hear about an uptick, he would demand that everyone in his shul start wearing masks and maintaining a reasonable distance.

You are naive if you think that every Lakewood rov is like him, but you are foolish if you think that there are no Lakewood rabbonim like him.

Speak to your rov. He may not do anything. But if he does, you can save lives. It seems almost certain.
R' Uren Reich was very vocal first time around...someone should talk to him.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #263 on: July 01, 2020, 09:22:04 PM »
In other words, too late.
The numbers have to be meaningfu to be of any use. Dutchess county is orange for example . They have 7 positives up from a just under that a few days ago. Makes for a pretty color but is meaningless. Real data is test numbers, percent positives, and random antibody sampling that show significant trends.

Here’s the accompanying chart in that article which is a far more accurate picture
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #264 on: July 01, 2020, 09:36:00 PM »
That's a lot of yellow and light orange. When will we start talking precautions? When it's dark orange? Red?

I've been following the daily numbers for NY/NJ, and these graphics don't reflect reality.
The graph is showing COVID cases are increasing almost in every county, while new cases have been decreasing or flat for more than 2 months across the board.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #265 on: July 01, 2020, 09:36:41 PM »
I've been following the daily numbers for NY/NJ, and these graphics don't reflect reality.
The graph is showing COVID cases are increasing almost in every county, while new cases have been decreasing or flat for more than 2 months across the board.
What's the pshat?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #266 on: July 01, 2020, 09:41:46 PM »
What's the pshat?

I have no idea as I didn't see the source, but I would guess they set illogical criteria behind each color.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #267 on: July 01, 2020, 09:43:10 PM »
What's the pshat?
The bar charts are showing absolute number changes so an increase of 2 in Dutchess looks to be equal to a decrease of 100 in NYC

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #268 on: July 01, 2020, 09:44:03 PM »
The bar charts are showing absolute number changes so an increase of 2 in Dutchess looks to be equal to a decrease of 100 in NYC
That doesn't explain what yuneeq did about cases going down.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #269 on: July 01, 2020, 09:59:38 PM »
That doesn't explain what yuneeq did about cases going down.
It does. Total NY can be going down even if most counties are going up, because NYC has had 10x more cases than the next. So even if NYC went down by 100 while other places ticked up by 5-10 apiece, total numbers would still be going down.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #270 on: July 01, 2020, 10:12:52 PM »
It does. Total NY can be going down even if most counties are going up, because NYC has had 10x more cases than the next. So even if NYC went down by 100 while other places ticked up by 5-10 apiece, total numbers would still be going down.
That's not what he said. I don't cate if total cases are going down of they're going up in  certain places.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #271 on: July 01, 2020, 10:14:51 PM »
That's not what he said. I don't cate if total cases are going down of they're going up in  certain places.
I read his post as total numbers in NY/NJ going down. Perhaps I misread.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #272 on: July 01, 2020, 10:15:22 PM »
If Rabbi Yisroel Reisman would be a rov in Lakewood and would hear about an uptick, he would demand that everyone in his shul start wearing masks and maintaining a reasonable distance.

You are naive if you think that every Lakewood rov is like him, but you are foolish if you think that there are no Lakewood rabbonim like him.

Speak to your rov. He may not do anything. But if he does, you can save lives. It seems almost certain.
@YitzyS I'm surprised! YOAP! You said you were inspired by Tucker Carlson's message last night, which (I think) was that if you want your leaders to change, you have to tell them what you think is needed.

Get your marketing committee back on board, design a letter or flyer and send it to all the rabbonim in Lakewood.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #273 on: July 01, 2020, 10:20:43 PM »
@YitzyS I'm surprised! YOAP! You said you were inspired by Tucker Carlson's message last night, which (I think) was that if you want your leaders to change, you have to tell them what you think is needed.

Get your marketing committee back on board, design a letter or flyer and send it to all the rabbonim in Lakewood.
I'm busy trying to feed my family, and don't have time this minute to head such a campaign. But I'm trying to stir it up on DDF so it will happen through another person.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #274 on: July 01, 2020, 10:45:34 PM »
I have a bunch of Floridians hanging around in my house. At what point can we sound the all-clear knowing that our antibodies work?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #275 on: July 01, 2020, 10:55:11 PM »
I have a bunch of Floridians hanging around in my house. At what point can we sound the all-clear knowing that our antibodies work?
Just about everyone agrees at this point that antibodies work (for some time). As has been stated repeatedly. At what point will you hear the all clear that has been sounded?

Not to mention, hailing from Florida in no way means you are infected.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #276 on: July 01, 2020, 10:58:57 PM »
I think anyone being intellectually honest will agree that wearing a mask is a small tradoff (and not an imposition).
Speak for yourself. When I wear a mask I need to open it up to get a few breaths of air every couple of minutes. Yes, it is an imposition.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #277 on: July 01, 2020, 11:09:58 PM »
Speak for yourself. When I wear a mask I need to open it up to get a few breaths of air every couple of minutes. Yes, it is an imposition.
Get a better mask.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #278 on: July 01, 2020, 11:24:52 PM »
Speak for yourself. When I wear a mask I need to open it up to get a few breaths of air every couple of minutes. Yes, it is an imposition.
Do you have any respiratory issues, like asthma?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #279 on: July 01, 2020, 11:44:06 PM »
I'm not who you think I am.