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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #435 on: July 08, 2020, 11:31:14 PM »
With age, your frustration will turn into cynicism.
wow. I must be old. Didn't realize how old.
Using your g-d given right of stupidity is an option, not a requirement. Please use sparingly.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #436 on: July 08, 2020, 11:42:11 PM »

Dr. Ditchek says that he saw 2 patients today who've been reinfected even though they've had antibodies (one donated plasma twice).
Watch the video for more details about additional cases.

I find this to be pretty concerning. If 2 immune family members are both testing positive right after exposure, and after negative tests, it’d have to be a pretty unlikely coincidence if it wasn’t reinfection.

Here’s what one of them sent out today-
“As many of you know our family has been through a terrible trauma as my mother has been very sick for months . Today I was discovered to have a new Coronavirus infection. I had so many antibodies in the past few months that I donated plasma two times (over 2 liters of plasma)!
I had several negative Coronavirus swabs in the last two months since being sick the first time.
There are now many new cases in our community and growing.
 I am asking everybody in the Zechut of my mother to please take this seriously,
Unfortunately many in our community are denying the new cases. There is no denying the truth. We must be carful and act now to save lives.
Thank you,
Jack (redacted)”

Unrelated but a relative In Lakewood had a kid in the same bunk that tested positive today. And then I’m hearing rumors of “lots of other mild cases” which I hope aren’t true, and well, I don’t see them in the daily numbers. 

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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #437 on: July 08, 2020, 11:43:51 PM »
I find this to be pretty concerning. If 2 immune family members are both testing positive right after exposure, and after negative tests, it’d have to be a pretty unlikely coincidence if it wasn’t reinfection.

Here’s what one of them sent out today-
“As many of you know our family has been through a terrible trauma as my mother has been very sick for months . Today I was discovered to have a new Coronavirus infection. I had so many antibodies in the past few months that I donated plasma two times (over 2 liters of plasma)!
I had several negative Coronavirus swabs in the last two months since being sick the first time.
There are now many new cases in our community and growing.
 I am asking everybody in the Zechut of my mother to please take this seriously,
Unfortunately many in our community are denying the new cases. There is no denying the truth. We must be carful and act now to save lives.
Thank you,
Jack (redacted)”

Unrelated but a relative In Lakewood had a kid in the same bunk that tested positive today. And then I’m hearing rumors of “lots of other mild cases” which I hope aren’t true, and well, I don’t see them in the daily numbers.
Although if it's true that there's a one week turnaround on tests in the NY/NJ area right now, they wouldn't show in the daily OCHD numbers yet.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2020, 11:48:12 PM by Euclid »

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #438 on: July 08, 2020, 11:47:32 PM »
I find this to be pretty concerning. If 2 immune family members are both testing positive right after exposure, and after negative tests, it’d have to be a pretty unlikely coincidence if it wasn’t reinfection.

Here’s what one of them sent out today-
“As many of you know our family has been through a terrible trauma as my mother has been very sick for months . Today I was discovered to have a new Coronavirus infection. I had so many antibodies in the past few months that I donated plasma two times (over 2 liters of plasma)!
I had several negative Coronavirus swabs in the last two months since being sick the first time.
There are now many new cases in our community and growing.
 I am asking everybody in the Zechut of my mother to please take this seriously,
Unfortunately many in our community are denying the new cases. There is no denying the truth. We must be carful and act now to save lives.
Thank you,
Jack (redacted)”

Unrelated but a relative In Lakewood had a kid in the same bunk that tested positive today. And then I’m hearing rumors of “lots of other mild cases” which I hope aren’t true, and well, I don’t see them in the daily numbers.
Could those “lots of other mild cases” be referring to the cold and sore through virus that is sweeping through Lakewood over the last week or so? Seems like everyone is getting cold/congestion/ sore throat etc. but probably not covid.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #439 on: July 08, 2020, 11:57:31 PM »
Could those “lots of other mild cases” be referring to the cold and sore through virus that is sweeping through Lakewood over the last week or so? Seems like everyone is getting cold/congestion/ sore throat etc. but probably not covid.

It could be nothing at all, I didn’t hear from a substantiated source. But yes I have noticed an increase in colds, which is concerning, because the same ease of  transmission for the cold can be replicated with corona.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #440 on: July 09, 2020, 10:26:51 AM »
For the benefit of @Lurker I will post the dictionary meaning.



Do you really think you will change people's behaviors with DDF posts (or any other way within your means)?

Or as they say in Israel: בכביש אל תהיה צודק, תהיה חכם!

I post on here because I owe DDF a great debt. I did not take Covid seriously until a little before Purim. The information posted here was invaluable in educating me in what was (and is) going on, and how to keep my family safe without locking myself in a room and losing my mind. In turn, that information was shared with my family, friends, and community, and from there it was passed on to their contacts, and on and on. Does everyone take me seriously? Hell no! I get laughed at more often than not. But to some people, the posts of DDFers like @yuneeq @S209 @Yard sale @aygart @Dan @CountValentine @Afrages6 @biobook and many, many more have had a huge impact on the lives of countless people they will never meet. It's ironic that it's you who thinks they don't make a difference. I can't count how many Twitter threads and articles YOU posted that were influential in guiding the decisions that I have personally made. I can't speak for others, but I doubt I'm the only one.

I used to be a cynic. I lived my life wanting to die. What is life when nothing matters? Then I grew up. Cynicism isn't what happens to frustration when you get older; it's what happens when you stop trying to address your frustrations.

There have been a number of comments recently about the changes Covid has brought about to people's personalities. Your posts make me question how Covid has affected you. You are DDF's ultimate Lubavitcher. Your profile picture is 770. The most painful part of the restrictions for you was your inability to daven in 770. The way you talk about your family, your interactions with others, farbrengens, hashkafos, life; everything about you screams I AM A CHOSSID OF THE LUBAVITCHER REBBE!! How can you sit here and tell me that one person can't change anything in the world? That nothing I say on here or do in my life offline can change people's behaviors? Who are you?! You're going to blame old age for cynicism? Throw in the towel, become a fatalist? This is really what you think of life now? This is a Lubavitcher??? And they wonder why people are shocked at the transformations they're seeing in attitudes and behaviors of their peers and acquaintances, family and friends, people they love and respect.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #441 on: July 09, 2020, 10:53:51 AM »
I post on here because I owe DDF a great debt. I did not take Covid seriously until a little before Purim. The information posted here was invaluable in educating me in what was (and is) going on, and how to keep my family safe without locking myself in a room and losing my mind. In turn, that information was shared with my family, friends, and community, and from there it was passed on to their contacts, and on and on. Does everyone take me seriously? Hell no! I get laughed at more often than not. But to some people, the posts of DDFers like @yuneeq @S209 @Yard sale @aygart @Dan @CountValentine @Afrages6 @biobook and many, many more have had a huge impact on the lives of countless people they will never meet. It's ironic that it's you who thinks they don't make a difference. I can't count how many Twitter threads and articles YOU posted that were influential in guiding the decisions that I have personally made. I can't speak for others, but I doubt I'm the only one.

I used to be a cynic. I lived my life wanting to die. What is life when nothing matters? Then I grew up. Cynicism isn't what happens to frustration when you get older; it's what happens when you stop trying to address your frustrations.

There have been a number of comments recently about the changes Covid has brought about to people's personalities. Your posts make me question how Covid has affected you. You are DDF's ultimate Lubavitcher. Your profile picture is 770. The most painful part of the restrictions for you was your inability to daven in 770. The way you talk about your family, your interactions with others, farbrengens, hashkafos, life; everything about you screams I AM A CHOSSID OF THE LUBAVITCHER REBBE!! How can you sit here and tell me that one person can't change anything in the world? That nothing I say on here or do in my life offline can change people's behaviors? Who are you?! You're going to blame old age for cynicism? Throw in the towel, become a fatalist? This is really what you think of life now? This is a Lubavitcher??? And they wonder why people are shocked at the transformations they're seeing in attitudes and behaviors of their peers and acquaintances, family and friends, people they love and respect.
Don't forget @chevron
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #442 on: July 09, 2020, 10:53:53 AM »

Dr. Ditchek says that he saw 2 patients today who've been reinfected even though they've had antibodies (one donated plasma twice).
Watch the video for more details about additional cases.
Now that everyone is davening with a minyan legally and he can't call the cops 2 people conveniently get re infected. I call BS. He said them at his clinical genetics office?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #443 on: July 09, 2020, 11:00:05 AM »
Don't forget @chevron

I'm missing more people than that. If I've interacted with you on DDF, whether I agreed with what you posted or your position, or I argued with you (sometimes maybe a little violently), I've most probably learned something from you.
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #444 on: July 09, 2020, 11:11:42 AM »
Agree that things and articles posted by @ExGingi have certainly affected how I think about some things. He's clearly a proud Chosid.

Also agree that his posts have been different since COVID and that's something I've now heard from a few people. But that's something I've also seen from several others and on Whatsapp groups I'm in.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #445 on: July 09, 2020, 11:12:40 AM »

Dr. Ditchek says that he saw 2 patients today who've been reinfected even though they've had antibodies (one donated plasma twice).
Watch the video for more details about additional cases.
The guy is a straight liar. He’s been caught lying so many different times throughout the last couple months. I won’t believe anything the guy ever says again.

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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #446 on: July 09, 2020, 11:14:06 AM »
The guy is a straight liar. He’s been caught lying so many different times throughout the last couple months. I won’t believe anything the guy ever says again.
I definitely understand this sentiment. But what he's saying corroborates what the Gedaliah Society has been saying. Additionally, his patient has come forward and released info on WhatsApp. I tend to believe him in this case based on that.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #447 on: July 09, 2020, 11:14:31 AM »
Now that everyone is davening with a minyan legally and he can't call the cops 2 people conveniently get re infected. I call BS. He said them at his clinical genetics office?
Do you really think reinfection is impossible?
That seems naive. I'd say the best case scenario is that it's genetic among that family.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #448 on: July 09, 2020, 11:20:09 AM »
The guy is a straight liar. He’s been caught lying so many different times throughout the last couple months. I won’t believe anything the guy ever says again.
example?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #449 on: July 09, 2020, 11:21:16 AM »
Do you really think reinfection is impossible?
That seems naive. I'd say the best case scenario is that it's genetic among that family.
Fauci said it doesn't seem likely. And along comes a DR who has nothing to do with corona and says he has seen 2 cases. Not even talking about reinfection, just don't believe him.