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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2020, 06:38:12 PM »
Why would you say that? That would be terrible, but why should we assume that?
Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2020, 06:41:25 PM »
Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.
People testing positive now are still being told to quarantine for 2 weeks and assume they’re infectious, even if they’ve been positive for weeks. There’s no proof that it’s dead, though it’s hoped and assumed.

Why are they getting tested again?  That wouldn’t explain why numbers are going up.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2020, 06:43:30 PM »
People testing positive now are still being told to quarantine for 2 weeks and assume they’re infectious, even if they’ve been positive for weeks. There’s no proof that it’s dead, though it’s hoped and assumed.

Why are they getting tested again?  That wouldn’t explain why numbers are going up.
People who are going for antibody testing and have been symptom free for weeks have been receiving positives. They were never tested originally, so they add to the tally. Didn't Mt. Sinai tell people they were not contagious?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2020, 06:46:34 PM »
Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2020, 06:47:56 PM »
Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.
AFAIK anyone can get tested for Covid-19 and antibody testing with no symptoms.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2020, 06:49:13 PM »
Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

How much does each test cost them? $1.5mm sounds like a lot, even at $100/test that’s 15,000 tests.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2020, 07:04:34 PM »
AFAIK anyone can get tested for Covid-19 and antibody testing with no symptoms.

Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2020, 07:09:03 PM »
Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.
And factor in that people who aren't sick at all are looking for info regarding their status. I'm planning to test everyone in my family.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #68 on: May 14, 2020, 07:42:18 PM »
And factor in that people who aren't sick at all are looking for info regarding their status. I'm planning to test everyone in my family.
Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.
I’d love an accurate test for all in my family. I have yet to hear of a place in Lakewood performing tests without picking your brain and I really don’t want to do that. When will they make saliva tests and front of-the nose tests mainstream in Lakewood?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2020, 08:43:27 PM »
Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.
This. My neighbor (in lakewood) who never had symptoms and never got tested just tested positive for COVID as well as antibodies.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #70 on: May 14, 2020, 09:03:33 PM »
Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.
Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2020, 09:27:03 PM »
Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.
How bad were the tests, way back of your nose? Also, was the antibody test a blood test or finger prick?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2020, 09:36:16 PM »
I think I spotted some brain matter on the swab. Joking aside wasn't terrible, just a moment of extreme discomfort. They didn't linger to long in my brain. My 6 yr old was holding her nose but they didn't let her skip it, instead they just shoved it up quickly and only did one nostril. Needed to bill for it.
Antibodies, was a blood draw. 2 vials they do the IGM, which is the immediate immune reaction and IGG which is the longer term antibodies.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #73 on: May 14, 2020, 10:05:24 PM »
Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.

Here is where the daily number of tests and percent positive are so much more important to spot any trends than the raw number. Unfortunately that information is not being provided.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #74 on: May 14, 2020, 10:45:42 PM »
How bad were the tests, way back of your nose? Also, was the antibody test a blood test or finger prick?
Who is doing a finger pick and is it reliable?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2020, 10:52:27 PM »
Who is doing a finger pick and is it reliable?
It's less reliable.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2020, 11:59:02 PM »
Thanks. Don't think I'll be able to convince some of them to do a blood draw.
FWIW my kids get a lot more hysterical from a finger prick than a blood draw. I guess it depends how much blood they need from the finger...
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2020, 12:00:53 AM »
It's less reliable.
Thanks. Don't think I'll be able to convince some of them to do a draw.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2020, 07:39:55 PM »
Lakewood up to 2076. Additional 26 positives since yesterday.
2094
Additional 18 today.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2020, 09:38:30 PM »
2094
Additional 18 today.
2099. 5 new positives reported since Friday