Author Topic: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach? (Read 105813 times)

flyingace · « **Reply #60 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:38:12 PM »

Quote from: S209 on May 14, 2020, 06:28:52 PM

Why would you say that? That would be terrible, but why should we assume that?

Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.

S209 · « **Reply #61 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:41:25 PM »

Quote from: flyingace on May 14, 2020, 06:38:12 PM

Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.

People testing positive now are still being told to quarantine for 2 weeks and assume they’re infectious, even if they’ve been positive for weeks. There’s no proof that it’s dead, though it’s hoped and assumed.

Why are they getting tested again? That wouldn’t explain why numbers are going up.

flyingace · « **Reply #62 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:43:30 PM »

Quote from: S209 on May 14, 2020, 06:41:25 PM

People testing positive now are still being told to quarantine for 2 weeks and assume they’re infectious, even if they’ve been positive for weeks. There’s no proof that it’s dead, though it’s hoped and assumed.

Why are they getting tested again? That wouldn’t explain why numbers are going up.

People who are going for antibody testing and have been symptom free for weeks have been receiving positives. They were never tested originally, so they add to the tally. Didn't Mt. Sinai tell people they were not contagious?

Yard sale · « **Reply #63 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:46:34 PM »

Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

flyingace · « **Reply #64 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:47:56 PM »

Quote from: Yard sale on May 14, 2020, 06:46:34 PM

Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

AFAIK anyone can get tested for Covid-19 and antibody testing with no symptoms.

AsherO · « **Reply #65 on:** May 14, 2020, 06:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Yard sale on May 14, 2020, 06:46:34 PM

Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

How much does each test cost them? $1.5mm sounds like a lot, even at $100/test that’s 15,000 tests.

Yard sale · « **Reply #66 on:** May 14, 2020, 07:04:34 PM »

Quote from: flyingace on May 14, 2020, 06:47:56 PM

AFAIK anyone can get tested for Covid-19 and antibody testing with no symptoms.

Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.

flyingace · « **Reply #67 on:** May 14, 2020, 07:09:03 PM »

Quote from: Yard sale on May 14, 2020, 07:04:34 PM

Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.

And factor in that people who aren't sick at all are looking for info regarding their status. I'm planning to test everyone in my family.

S209 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 14, 2020, 07:42:18 PM »

Quote from: flyingace on May 14, 2020, 07:09:03 PM

And factor in that people who aren't sick at all are looking for info regarding their status. I'm planning to test everyone in my family.

Quote from: Yard sale on May 14, 2020, 07:04:34 PM

Yes but now if a patient comes in with muscle aches or a low fever there’s an incentive for a doctor to order a covid test for the patient. Nothing wrong with that. Just something to factor in to the numbers.

I’d love an accurate test for all in my family. I have yet to hear of a place in Lakewood performing tests without picking your brain and I really don’t want to do that. When will they make saliva tests and front of-the nose tests mainstream in Lakewood?

avromie7 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 14, 2020, 08:43:27 PM »

Quote from: flyingace on May 14, 2020, 06:38:12 PM

Meaning that (some of) these new positives could be the ones that are picking up dead viral matter as opposed to new people actually getting sick.

This. My neighbor (in lakewood) who never had symptoms and never got tested just tested positive for COVID as well as antibodies.

joeberg · « **Reply #70 on:** May 14, 2020, 09:03:33 PM »

Quote from: Yard sale on May 14, 2020, 06:46:34 PM

Still the overall trend is worth keeping an eye on. I would expect some increasing numbers as at least a small number of people who were never exposed test positive along with the fact that testing is now widely available and incentivized. OHI and CHEMED very recently got around 1.5 million in funding specifically to do testing. They’ve got to do the testing to use the funds. I’m sure anyone coming in with nonspecific symptoms is not being tested. Still if the number spikes sharply that would be telling. I am certainly not anticipating that.

Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.

S209 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 14, 2020, 09:27:03 PM »

Quote from: joeberg on May 14, 2020, 09:03:33 PM

Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.

How bad were the tests, way back of your nose? Also, was the antibody test a blood test or finger prick?

joeberg · « **Reply #72 on:** May 14, 2020, 09:36:16 PM »

I think I spotted some brain matter on the swab.

Joking aside wasn't terrible, just a moment of extreme discomfort. They didn't linger to long in my brain. My 6 yr old was holding her nose but they didn't let her skip it, instead they just shoved it up quickly and only did one nostril. Needed to bill for it.

Antibodies, was a blood draw. 2 vials they do the IGM, which is the immediate immune reaction and IGG which is the longer term antibodies.

Yard sale · « **Reply #73 on:** May 14, 2020, 10:05:24 PM »

Quote from: joeberg on May 14, 2020, 09:03:33 PM

Chemed is giving everyone both tests by default, Carona and antibodies. I just got my whole family tested, 6 yr old and up. They didn't give an option of doing only one of the tests.

Here is where the daily number of tests and percent positive are so much more important to spot any trends than the raw number. Unfortunately that information is not being provided.