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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #500 on: July 10, 2020, 09:16:40 AM »
here it is
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #501 on: July 10, 2020, 10:29:16 AM »
Fantastic shiur, thanks for posting.

Very strong halachic case for wearing a mask and ignoring peer pressure.
@ExGingi, response?
Who am I to respond. I  do not posses 1/100th of Rabbi Braun's Torah knowledge and bekius, and he has the added benefit of סייעתא דשמיא that comes with holding a position of Halachic Authority for a community.

The only comment I can have is that I wish this wouldn't stay in the realm of פלפולא בעלמא but rather get down to עולם המעשה. I hope I will be proven wrong, so far it doesn't seems so. Though I did make my comments known to his close circles in no unequivocal terms this morning.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2020, 10:32:19 AM by ExGingi »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #502 on: July 10, 2020, 10:36:03 AM »
Change starts with you.

Everyone is masked at my minyan without exception.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #503 on: July 10, 2020, 10:49:08 AM »
A well known doctor in Lakewood who seems to be familiar with the cases in Deal says Ditcheks  claim of reinfection in those two patients is highly dubious at best. He says there is one case in queens that is being looked at somewhat more closely than Ditcheks claims.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #504 on: July 10, 2020, 10:51:22 AM »
Change starts with you.

Everyone is masked at my minyan without exception.

You're really trying to compare your minyan to 770?  ::)  ::)  ::)

Maybe we can write a fairytale book about that comparison.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #505 on: July 10, 2020, 10:57:44 AM »
You start by leading by example and upholding the psak din.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #506 on: July 10, 2020, 11:58:59 AM »
The only comment I can have is that I wish this wouldn't stay in the realm of פלפולא בעלמא but rather get down to עולם המעשה. I hope I will be proven wrong, so far it doesn't seems so. Though I did make my comments known to his close circles in no unequivocal terms this morning.
the guidance on guests isolating would be nice if it was followed as well. no reason for locals to welcome them with open arms in defiance of halachic guidance

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #507 on: July 10, 2020, 12:08:01 PM »
name?
I don’t think he wants to be named so take for what it’s worth to you

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #508 on: July 10, 2020, 12:13:57 PM »
I don’t think he wants to be named so take for what it’s worth to you
I love when people do that, they lose credibility IMO

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #509 on: July 10, 2020, 12:15:42 PM »
I love when people do that, they lose credibility IMO
If he puts his name out there he will be the next one for ditchek to attack.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #510 on: July 10, 2020, 12:16:25 PM »
If he puts his name out there he will be the next one for ditchek to attack.
Ok so if you think you are right then stand behind it

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #511 on: July 10, 2020, 12:17:47 PM »
I love when people do that, they lose credibility IMO
The doctors in Lakewood are very wary of any sort of public announcement after the backlash they experienced in March/April. Source: a Lakewood doctor.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #512 on: July 10, 2020, 12:23:34 PM »
The doctors in Lakewood are very wary of any sort of public announcement after the backlash they experienced in March/April. Source: a Lakewood doctor.
All people want to do nowadays is be politically correct, no one cares about the truth anymore.... its sad

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #513 on: July 10, 2020, 12:25:17 PM »
All people want to do nowadays is be politically correct, no one cares about the truth anymore.... its sad
I agree with the sentiment but this is a practical decision knowing that they have limited bullets in their "public announcement" gun, they can't afford to lose more trust.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #514 on: July 10, 2020, 12:27:01 PM »
Well either way, if I have 2 doctors contradicting each other, I would like to be able to pull up their resumes and make an informed decision on who to believe, but when all I hear is a well respected doctor from Lakewood that doesnt help me much.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #515 on: July 10, 2020, 12:27:36 PM »
All people want to do nowadays is be politically correct, no one cares about the truth anymore.... its sad

I hear your frustration, but remember that most doctors just want to deal with medicine, not politics. On hot button issues like this one, it can be challenging to find a balance. One public statement, and you get dragged through the mud by anyone who disagrees.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #516 on: July 10, 2020, 12:28:40 PM »
I love when people do that, they lose credibility IMO
Np go with Ditchek if he seem credible to you

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #517 on: July 10, 2020, 12:29:44 PM »
I agree with the sentiment but this is a practical decision knowing that they have limited bullets in their "public announcement" gun, they can't afford to lose more trust.

if they are honest then there is no losing trust

you only lose trust when you are being dishonest

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #518 on: July 10, 2020, 12:29:51 PM »
Well either way, if I have 2 doctors contradicting each other, I would like to be able to pull up their resumes and make an informed decision on who to believe, but when all I hear is a well respected doctor from Lakewood that doesnt help me much.

Practically speaking, what would you do differently if you felt one doctor was right? At this point, if you're taking the precautions you should be taking, it shouldn't matter if 1 or 2 cases are reinfections or flare-ups.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #519 on: July 10, 2020, 12:30:22 PM »
Np go with Ditchek if he seem credible to you
listen say what you want about Ditcheck but at least he doesnt hide behind what he believes in.....