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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach (NEW case)?

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #520 on: July 10, 2020, 12:31:24 PM »
Practically speaking, what would you do differently if you felt one doctor was right? At this point, if you're taking the precautions you should be taking, it shouldn't matter if 1 or 2 cases are reinfections or flare-ups.
It doesnt matter practically but I am trying to learn more about the virus

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #521 on: July 10, 2020, 12:33:21 PM »
The doctors in Lakewood are very wary of any sort of public announcement after the backlash they experienced in March/April. Source: a Lakewood doctor.
The irony, of course, is that what the Lakewood doctors posted in March and April has been proven absolutely right. Yet people will still lump them in together with Trump and Cuomo and say “all of the doctors were wrong, they don’t know anything”.
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Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #522 on: July 10, 2020, 12:34:42 PM »
if they are honest then there is no losing trust

you only lose trust when you are being dishonest
You're misunderstanding. There's so many unknowns with Covid and the doctors can't afford to make an announcement based on a *possibility*, since the community has already pushed back on doctors when they tried to close shuls. They are saving their bullets for extraordinary situations and updating the community about a *possible* reinfection doesn't fit in that category.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #523 on: July 10, 2020, 12:35:21 PM »
I hear your frustration, but remember that most doctors just want to deal with medicine, not politics. On hot button issues like this one, it can be challenging to find a balance. One public statement, and you get dragged through the mud by anyone who disagrees.
Im not asking them to make a public statement but they dont want to be quoted, there is a difference...

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #524 on: July 10, 2020, 12:35:29 PM »
It doesnt matter practically but I am trying to learn more about the virus

Me too  :)

At this point, I don't think it matters who says what until there are more cases. If someone takes a controversial stance when it makes a practical difference, that's when I would start pushing for names.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #525 on: July 10, 2020, 12:36:38 PM »
Im not asking them to make a public statement but they dont want to be quoted, there is a difference...
And why do you want his name? So he can be quoted in a public or semi-public forum....

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #526 on: July 10, 2020, 12:39:15 PM »
And why do you want his name? So he can be quoted in a public or semi-public forum....
no so I can look up his credentials and see if he is trustworthy.....

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #527 on: July 10, 2020, 12:40:30 PM »
no so I can look up his credentials and see if he is trustworthy.....
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #528 on: July 10, 2020, 01:00:09 PM »
the guidance on guests isolating would be nice if it was followed as well. no reason for locals to welcome them with open arms in defiance of halachic guidance

I suggest you stop now. I will not respond because the response doesn't belong in this forum. But you're being extremely naïve.
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #529 on: July 10, 2020, 01:03:25 PM »
I suggest you stop now. I will not respond because the response doesn't belong in this forum. But you're being extremely naïve.

The gist of the response being that the rabbonim themselves are only putting out the guidance because of pressure or for CYA purposes, since they are participating and sanctioning events with tons of OOTers?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #532 on: July 10, 2020, 05:03:22 PM »
2 positives today per OCHD

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #533 on: July 10, 2020, 05:13:39 PM »
2 positives today per OCHD
Just going to say that is could be these false positives we see in all the people with antibodies. (Dead cells or what not, no one is sure).
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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #534 on: July 10, 2020, 05:18:49 PM »
Just going to say that is could be these false positives we see in all the people with antibodies. (Dead cells or what not, no one is sure).
I wish Dr. Friedman would make his tracker public. (I understand why he can't/won't.)

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #535 on: July 10, 2020, 07:01:54 PM »
I wish Dr. Friedman would make his tracker public. (I understand why he can't/won't.)
He is not seeing anything that would suggest alarming numbers

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #536 on: July 10, 2020, 07:02:48 PM »
He is not seeing anything that would suggest alarming numbers
Yup. I've heard the same - that's why I'd wish we'd have access to it instead of relying on hearsay and rumors.

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #537 on: July 10, 2020, 07:16:30 PM »
I suggest you stop now. I will not respond because the response doesn't belong in this forum. But you're being extremely naïve.
so respond in the medium of your choice

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #538 on: July 12, 2020, 12:02:36 AM »
7 new positives since yesterday

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Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?
« Reply #539 on: July 12, 2020, 08:06:34 PM »
the guidance on guests isolating would be nice if it was followed as well. no reason for locals to welcome them with open arms in defiance of halachic guidance
clarification: this is not a reference to actual actions by anyone specific. described here or otherwise.
let's just say I have a personal thing with theoretical travel bans similar to some other people's thing with theoretical positive pcr test