Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach?

[Euclid]

Just found the numbers - new cases in last 7 days:

Deal: 1 case (38)
Eatontown: 13 cases (326)
Long Branch: 3 cases (640)
Ocean: 3 cases (379)
West Long Branch: -1 case (77)

19 new cases.

For whatever reason, the new cases are not getting confirmed in the most concentrated Jewish areas, and practically no cases anywhere.
https://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/page.aspx?Id=5017

Are they Brooklyn residents, and their results are being attributed to their place of residence?


ETA: @avromie7 beat me to it

[Yard sale]

Just found the numbers - new cases in last 7 days:

Deal: 1 case (38)
Eatontown: 13 cases (326)
Long Branch: 3 cases (640)
Ocean: 3 cases (379)
West Long Branch: -1 case (77)

19 new cases.

For whatever reason, the new cases are not getting confirmed in the most concentrated Jewish areas, and practically no cases anywhere.
https://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/page.aspx?Id=5017

I don’t know but the numbers I am hearing are more than all of those new numbers combined.

[Euclid]

I don’t know but the numbers I am hearing are more than all of those new numbers combined.

How many?

[yuneeq]

maybe they're really from brooklyn

If I had to guess most if not all are from Brooklyn

[cmey]

Heard Lakewood’s stared getting meshulachim to test. Supposedly a few tested positive so they picked up and went right over to Monsey....

[Euclid]

Just found the numbers - new cases in last 7 days:

Deal: 1 case (38)
Eatontown: 13 cases (326)
Long Branch: 3 cases (640)
Ocean: 3 cases (379)
West Long Branch: -1 case (77)

19 new cases.

For whatever reason, the new cases are not getting confirmed in the most concentrated Jewish areas, and practically no cases anywhere.
https://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/page.aspx?Id=5017

Bunch of new cases in Eatontown and Ocean today.

[rs242]

I didn’t see it mentioned. But the case last week of the guy that got reinfected ended up being a negative when they sent it for the lab test.

[how]

At this point it’s clear that although the virus numbers are spiking many hotspots the death rate is nothing compared to what we saw in New York. From what I’m hearing this may be due to better treatment protocols but I would love to hear some of your perspectives on this. When this was brought up a month ago some people said it was too early but at this point I think there is a real difference in the death rate.

[biobook]

At this point it’s clear that although the virus numbers are spiking many hotspots the death rate is nothing compared to what we saw in New York. From what I’m hearing this may be due to better treatment protocols but I would love to hear some of your perspectives on this. When this was brought up a month ago some people said it was too early but at this point I think there is a real difference in the death rate.

Dr. Griffin gave 4 possible reasons for this, on This Week in Virology. #638, July 12
https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-638/

Why are case numbers rising, but not the death rate?
1. Younger people being infected, and they have a lower death rate.
2. Doctors learned how to better manage patients – delay intubation, proning, steroids, anticoagulation.
3. Stopped the removal of patients from hospital to nursing homes and required frequent testing there, slowing transmission to those most likely to die.
4. Takes time to die. So we probably will see an uptick in deaths soon.  Rates of new deaths are now over 60,000, he expects death rate of over 1000 next week.

[how]

4. Takes time to die. So we probably will see an uptick in deaths soon.  Rates of new deaths are now over 60,000, he expects death rate of over 1000 next week.

The bulk of deaths I saw by the elderly during the height of NYC was 5 days after showing symptoms

[yuneeq]

The bulk of deaths I saw by the elderly during the height of NYC was 5 days after showing symptoms

Deaths aren't reported immediately, for example I reviewed Florida deaths reported on July 11th (IIRC) and 30 out of 120 death died in July, most died mid/end June, some as early as April. I believe there's an average of 2-3 week reporting lag.

Here's an interesting article on the same topic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/

[how]

Deaths aren't reported immediately, for example I reviewed Florida deaths reported on July 11th (IIRC) and 30 out of 120 death died in July, most died mid/end June, some as early as April. I believe there's an average of 2-3 week reporting lag.

Here's an interesting article on the same topic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/

New York also had a big lag in reporting dentists

New York only asked nursing homes to report the deaths on April 17. Until then goes this were not even counted.

Unless the number of infected people in New York was so much higher Then we think therefore more people died. Otherwise the current death rate is something to be optimistic about. Not that we shouldn’t be careful etc. I’m just pointing out that we are not seeing the same devastation as we saw in New York.

[yuneeq]

New York also had a big lag in reporting deaths

New York only asked nursing homes to report the deaths on April 17. Until then goes this were not even counted.

Unless the number of infected people in New York was so much higher Then we think therefore more people died. Otherwise the current death rate is something to be optimistic about. Not that we shouldn’t be careful etc. I’m just pointing out that we are not seeing the same devastation as we saw in New York.

FTFY

I wasn't saying that Florida is special in the death reporting lag, every state has a lag and it needs to be taken into consideration.
Re: NY, there were a lot more infections than reported, and yes that does bring down the death rate. There are a lot of reasons why Florida will be better from a death rate standpoint, but from the way things look there still will be way too many preventable deaths.

[Lurker]

At this point it’s clear that although the virus numbers are spiking many hotspots the death rate is nothing compared to what we saw in New York. From what I’m hearing this may be due to better treatment protocols but I would love to hear some of your perspectives on this. When this was brought up a month ago some people said it was too early but at this point I think there is a real difference in the death rate.

It's not comparable to NY for a bunch of reasons. Virtually all the circumstances are different, especially the treatments.  That said, it's way too early to decide that we know anything about the death rate of the other hotspots. In FL alone, they are looking at a minimum of 3000 deaths (announced) in the next 30 days, and possibly triple that. I'll post the numbers later.

[how]

It's not comparable to NY for a bunch of reasons. Virtually all the circumstances are different, especially the treatments.  That said, it's way too early to decide that we know anything about the death rate of the other hotspots. In FL alone, they are looking at a minimum of 3000 deaths (announced) in the next 30 days, and possibly triple that. I'll post the numbers later.

Thank you maybe I spoke too soon take a look at Texas numbers today

[YitzyS]

From Hefkervelt today:

Physician: In the past 2-3 weeks the Lakewood Kehilla has seen several new cases of COVID-19 illness, now about 20 cases. Most, but not all, have been connected to infected individuals coming to Lakewood from Florida. In addition, it is reported that the Deal, NJ community now has some 40 new cases of illness since last week. These cases are connected to infected individuals who have come to Deal from Brooklyn.

[Yard sale]

How many?

I heard 40 cases in Deal but didn’t want to put out a number that wasn’t confirmed. 0 cases in Lakewood yesterday and 1 today per OCHD.

[biobook]

Do you know what they mean by "connected to"?  Both of these might be "connected":
15 people who got infected in FL, and then were tested in Lakewood.
2 people who got infected in FL, and then transmitted it to 13 people who never left Lakewood.

[avromie7]

Do you know what they mean by "connected to"?  Both of these might be "connected":
15 people who got infected in FL, and then were tested in Lakewood.
2 people who got infected in FL, and then transmitted it to 13 people who never left Lakewood.

Probably somewhere in the middle. I would assume most of those who got it from people who brought it back from FL are immediate family members.

The good news in that is there is (almost) no community spread in lakewood. In other words the rate of transmission is well below 1.

[aygart]

Probably somewhere in the middle. I would assume most of those who got it from people who brought it back from FL are immediate family members.

The good news in that is there is (almost) no community spread in lakewood. In other words the rate of transmission is well below 1.

There was a report of one person who was in FL spreading in his shul. Much of the low transmission rate may be due to the proactive contact tracing by CHEMED which seems to be BH effective.