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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #260 on: May 21, 2020, 09:52:11 PM »
I am optimistic, if we separate the vulnerable population, i dont think we will have a high death toll.
It’s much easier said then done.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #261 on: May 21, 2020, 09:53:03 PM »
We are on a roll. Couldn't agree more.
Other than saying it's a bit premature to say Sweden was wrong in its approach.
Sweden’s problem was that the social distancing measures they did implement and the bans on gatherings didn’t allow them to accomplish herd immunity. They have 7.7 percent immunity in Stockholm

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #262 on: May 21, 2020, 09:54:20 PM »
It’s much easier said then done.
It takes personal responsibility and discipline, not government regulation.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #263 on: May 21, 2020, 09:55:32 PM »
I am optimistic, if we separate the vulnerable population, i dont think we will have a high death toll.
What do you mean separate? Quarantine, stay at home or something else?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #264 on: May 21, 2020, 10:06:13 PM »
What do you mean separate? Quarantine, stay at home or something else?
Whatever term you would like to use.
It would mean all nursing homes and the like are quarantined and regulated by government (Capsuled employees, no readmission to patients who test positive, etc).
People who are at home with any vulnerability to Covid are going to have to take personal responsibility to self isolate as long as there is a risk of infection in their area.
I think people care about their own lives way more than any government bureaucrat in Albany, Tallahassee, or Sacramento.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #265 on: May 21, 2020, 10:09:38 PM »
Whatever term you would like to use.
It would mean all nursing homes and the like are quarantined and regulated by government (Capsuled employees, no readmission to patients who test positive, etc).
People who are at home with any vulnerability to Covid are going to have to take personal responsibility to self isolate as long as there is a risk of infection in their area.
I think people care about their own lives way more than any government bureaucrat in Albany, Tallahassee, or Sacramento.
Trying to figure out where you are ok with government regulation.
Home about house parties of hundreds of kids with no precautions what so ever. Should government step in?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #266 on: May 21, 2020, 10:26:30 PM »
Trying to figure out where you are ok with government regulation.
Home about house parties of hundreds of kids with no precautions what so ever. Should government step in?
I am ok with government protecting those that can't protect themselves. such as, elderly patients in nursing homes or an unborn child in the womb.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #267 on: May 21, 2020, 10:31:11 PM »
I am ok with government protecting those that can't protect themselves. such as, elderly patients in nursing homes or an unborn child in the womb.
What about the example I gave?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #268 on: May 21, 2020, 10:35:47 PM »
What about the example I gave?
What about it?
If they were drinking or driving or drinking and driving i think we would all agree.
If you are asking because you think Covid19 is extremely dangerous than i would say i understand where you are coming from, but i think most people feel that the risk to children is basically nonexistent and therefore I don't see where government gets involved.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #269 on: May 21, 2020, 10:39:57 PM »
What about it?
If they were drinking or driving or drinking and driving i think we would all agree.
If you are asking because you think Covid19 is extremely dangerous than i would say i understand where you are coming from, but i think most people feel that the risk to children is basically nonexistent and therefore I don't see where government gets involved.
These are teenagers and young adults. You think the risk is basically nonexistent? You also feel them spreading the virus is also basically nonexistent?
You can't fix stupid but we need government regulations to try and stop it.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #270 on: May 21, 2020, 10:52:27 PM »
These are teenagers and young adults. You think the risk is basically nonexistent? You also feel them spreading the virus is also basically nonexistent?
You can't fix stupid but we need government regulations to try and stop it.
It is basically non existent.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #271 on: May 21, 2020, 10:54:40 PM »
It is basically non existent.
Why do you say that? Tons seem to have spread from teens in Lakewood?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #272 on: May 21, 2020, 11:01:57 PM »
Why do you say that? Tons seem to have spread from teens in Lakewood?
I was referring specifically to the actual risk of getting extremely ill, not infections.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #273 on: May 21, 2020, 11:02:18 PM »
Why do you say that? Tons seem to have spread from teens in Lakewood?
I was referring to the risk.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #274 on: May 21, 2020, 11:13:07 PM »
I was referring to the risk.
I was referring specifically to the actual risk of getting extremely ill, not infections.

Do you think the risk of children and teens getting infected and spreading infection is lower, higher, or the same as anyone else?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #275 on: May 21, 2020, 11:15:08 PM »
Do you think the risk of children and teens getting infected and spreading infection is lower, higher, or the same as anyone else?
I am optimistic, if we separate the vulnerable population, i dont think we will have a high death toll.

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« Reply #276 on: May 21, 2020, 11:17:45 PM »


That's not answering the question.... I'm specifically asking about risk of infection and risk of spreading infection.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #277 on: May 21, 2020, 11:20:09 PM »
That's not answering the question.... I'm specifically asking about risk of infection and risk of spreading infection.
I have no statistics to back it up. But I do think that it’s less likely that they are to get infected and then infect someone who is high risk.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #278 on: May 21, 2020, 11:21:35 PM »
I have no statistics to back it up. But I do think that it’s less likely that they are to get infected and then infect someone who is high risk.
See WSJ editorial posted here last night.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #279 on: May 21, 2020, 11:22:16 PM »
I have no statistics to back it up. But I do think that it’s less likely that they are to get infected and then infect someone who is high risk.
So basically you just pulled it out of thin air. There is no reason to think they are less likely to get infected or to spread. Everything I have seen in facts on the ground shows otherwise.
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