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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #300 on: May 22, 2020, 05:12:35 PM »
https://apnews.com/5ebc0ad45b73a899efa81f098330204c?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP
OK how lives did that cost compared to sending them somewhere else. You didn't want the hospitals to keep them, did you?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #301 on: May 22, 2020, 05:17:40 PM »
OK how lives did that cost compared to sending them somewhere else. You didn't want the hospitals to keep them, did you?

That hospital ship they sent away without putting any patients on it? That would have worked fine. So would the Javits Center.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #302 on: May 22, 2020, 05:23:54 PM »
That hospital ship they sent away without putting any patients on it? That would have worked fine.
I agree.
When did he stop sending patients back and when did the ship arrive?
I don't keep up NY politics.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #303 on: May 22, 2020, 05:42:15 PM »
I agree.
When did he stop sending patients back and when did the ship arrive?
I don't keep up NY politics.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #304 on: May 22, 2020, 05:46:41 PM »
I agree.
When did he stop sending patients back and when did the ship arrive?
I don't keep up NY politics.

Javitz center had beds before the ship was there. Nursing home directors have publicized their requests that patients be sent there and they were refused by Cuomo.

There was also the hospital in Central Park which was closed because it is Christian

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #305 on: May 22, 2020, 06:01:36 PM »
There was also the hospital in Central Park which was closed because it is Christian
Need a source for this one.
So if it was Catholic it would have been ok?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #306 on: May 22, 2020, 06:04:32 PM »
Need a source for this one.
So if it was Catholic it would have been ok?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/samaritans-purse-excluded-from-nyc-for-the-sake-of-inclusion/

Problem was that it was anti LGBTQ

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #307 on: May 22, 2020, 06:09:37 PM »
Problem was that it was anti LGBTQ
Thanks, had nothing to do with them being what some call Christian. They are a bunch of haters!
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #308 on: May 22, 2020, 06:15:45 PM »
Thanks, had nothing to do with them being what some call Christian. They are a bunch of haters!

What was the hate exactly? They refused treatment to gays? What difference should their political beliefs make to doctors treating *everyone* for free?

Whatever, this is a digression from the main point, they made the deadly decisions because they felt they didn't have enough beds, they never ran out of beds and sent away/closed at least 4 options virtually unused.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #309 on: May 22, 2020, 06:21:03 PM »
What was the hate exactly? They refused treatment to gays? What difference should their political beliefs make to doctors treating *everyone* for free?

Whatever, this is a digression from the main point, they made the deadly decisions because they felt they didn't have enough beds, they never ran out of beds and sent away/closed at least 4 options virtually unused.
The hate is my opinion.
I challenged your statement it was closed because it was Christian. You were mistaken (being PC with that comment).
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #310 on: May 22, 2020, 06:23:29 PM »
What was the hate exactly? They refused treatment to gays? What difference should their political beliefs make to doctors treating *everyone* for free?

Whatever, this is a digression from the main point, they made the deadly decisions because they felt they didn't have enough beds, they never ran out of beds and sent away/closed at least 4 options virtually unused.
It was very clear from the beginning that the predictions they were basing it off of were so crazily wrong. Who knows how many deaths could’ve been saved if Cuomo would’ve approached things with a cool head. Instead he freaked out about some prediction from England based on 15 year old code and ended up leading to so many unnecessary deaths.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #311 on: May 22, 2020, 06:29:17 PM »
The hate is my opinion.
I challenged your statement it was closed because it was Christian. You were mistaken (being PC with that comment).
I think it's abundantly clear what I meant with my comment. My signature is not a mistake. And I wasn't mistaken in any way.

We've actually had discussions about proselytizing orginizations like the Salvation Army, and my *personal opinion* of them. But for the *city* to kick them out when they killed seniors because of a supposed shortage of beds is beyond insanity.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #312 on: May 22, 2020, 06:32:06 PM »
I think it's abundantly clear what I meant with my comment. My signature is not a mistake. And I wasn't mistaken in any way.
Just say it was sarcasm and be done with it.
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #313 on: May 22, 2020, 06:40:40 PM »
Just say it was sarcasm and be done with it.

Did you honestly think I was making the claim NYC kicked them out of the park for the stated reason of them being Christian? Come on.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #314 on: May 22, 2020, 06:42:36 PM »
Dips you honestly think I was making the claim NYC kicked them out of the park for the stated reason of them being Christian? Come on.
Actually I did and that is why I asked.
Did they even kick them out as you claimed or was that sarcasm also?
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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #315 on: May 22, 2020, 06:44:35 PM »
Actually I did and that is why I asked.
Did they even kick them out as you claimed or was that sarcasm also?

https://twitter.com/NYCSpeakerCoJo/status/1256349197407866880

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #316 on: May 22, 2020, 06:48:25 PM »

I understand that but the article I read said they are leaving because of lack of patients. That is not true?
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« Reply #317 on: May 22, 2020, 06:51:15 PM »
I understand that but the article I read said they are leaving because of lack of patients. That is not true?
Maybe NYC kicked them out once they were already leaving?

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #318 on: May 22, 2020, 06:52:15 PM »
Again, this is all besides the main point. The shortage of beds they used as an excuse was never even close to being true.

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Re: Will the truth come out how NYC & NYS made blunder after blunder?
« Reply #319 on: May 22, 2020, 06:59:27 PM »
Again, this is all besides the main point. The shortage of beds they used as an excuse was never even close to being true.
Or the shortage of ventilators. Now they have more tests then they know what to do with so they are forcing nursing home employees to test twice a week to inflate the testing numbers.