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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #570 on: June 24, 2020, 09:28:06 AM »
More testing means less serious cases are picked up.

There is ZERO evidence to suggest the virus is weaker. We have full genome of the latest strands and it's just as potent.

It's incredible how quick people are to gobble the latest theory allowing them to deny reality.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #571 on: June 24, 2020, 09:41:25 AM »
More testing means less serious cases are picked up.

There is ZERO evidence to suggest the virus is weaker. We have full genome of the latest strands and it's just as potent.

It's incredible how quick people are to gobble the latest theory allowing them to deny reality.

I see the reality on the ground here in Israel. They speak for themselves.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #572 on: June 24, 2020, 09:54:48 AM »
I see the reality on the ground here in Israel. They speak for themselves.
What exactly are you seeing on the ground that indicates there's any difference in severity of cases versus last time around?


I'm also 'seeing the reality on the ground'.


As mentioned, the majority of new cases are younger people, but there are definitely older as well and we don't have any evidence suggesting covid suddenly weakened.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #573 on: June 24, 2020, 10:14:20 AM »
What exactly are you seeing on the ground that indicates there's any difference in severity of cases versus last time around?


I'm also 'seeing the reality on the ground'.


As mentioned, the majority of new cases are younger people, but there are definitely older as well and we don't have any evidence suggesting covid suddenly weakened.

There was a few nursing homes with patients and none of them got it severe. Especially not like last time.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #574 on: June 24, 2020, 11:34:05 AM »
I see the reality on the ground here in Israel. They speak for themselves.
Where have I seen this scientific argument before..  ::)
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #575 on: June 24, 2020, 01:35:54 PM »
Where have I seen this scientific argument before..  ::)

Are you in Israel? Didnt think so.....Here we dont spread hysteria.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #576 on: June 24, 2020, 01:39:04 PM »
Are you in Israel? Didnt think so.....Here we dont spread hysteria.
You're not being reasonable. Please address the other posters' points.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #577 on: June 24, 2020, 01:43:42 PM »
There was a few nursing homes with patients and none of them got it severe. Especially not like last time.
Doesn't it take a few weeks from the time people get it until it gets severe?
On the other hand while its spreading pretty fast in E"Y, B"H BA"H there have been no major uptick in people on respirators.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #578 on: June 24, 2020, 02:04:15 PM »
Are you in Israel? Didnt think so.....Here we dont spread hysteria.
Moving right along to your next salient point. If I donít live in Israel I canít use logic to make a rational argument. Whatís next, grocery stores and driving cars?
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #579 on: June 24, 2020, 02:22:54 PM »
Moving right along to your next salient point. If I donít live in Israel I canít use logic to make a rational argument. Whatís next, grocery stores and driving cars?
I'm not sure this is what @Proisrael means but what he could mean, is that in Israel everyone is much calmer and more resilient do the fact were all Jews and we had to get through גלות in some way. Israel (country and Jewish People) are, unfortunately, used to bad things happening so Corona is just another bump in the road and as I nation, people do not panic as much.
While in the other countries that are not used to adversity for example when something like Corona happens people go crazy and they think the world is coming to an end.   

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #580 on: June 24, 2020, 02:25:49 PM »
I'm not sure this is what @Proisrael means but what he could mean, is that in Israel everyone is much calmer and more resilient do the fact were all Jews and we had to get through גלות in some way. Israel (country and Jewish People) are, unfortunately, used to bad things happening so Corona is just another bump in the road and as I nation, people do not panic as much.
While in the other countries that are not used to adversity for example when something like Corona happens people go crazy and they think the world is coming to an end.   
Thatís a very nice point but says nothing about the facts on the ground. Facts donít care about your feelings.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #581 on: June 24, 2020, 02:34:16 PM »
Thatís a very nice point but says nothing about the facts on the ground. Facts donít care about your feelings.
What are the known facts regarding the state of Covid19 in Israel?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #582 on: June 24, 2020, 02:35:19 PM »
What are the known facts regarding the state of Covid19 in Israel?
2.5 weeks later and this thread didn't age well. 459 new cases in the last 24 hours, we are on our way to a bad situation
New lockdowns in targeted areas across the country
The most important number to watch is serious cases. If you look at the numbers you'll see it has consistently risen over the last few weeks. In the latest update today it's back up to 45.

The fact that most positives now are younger people does make that number go up more slowly, however as more and more test positive overall we unfortunately are seeing a consistent rise in those in serious condition.
More testing means less serious cases are picked up.

There is ZERO evidence to suggest the virus is weaker. We have full genome of the latest strands and it's just as potent.

It's incredible how quick people are to gobble the latest theory allowing them to deny reality.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
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