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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #705 on: October 09, 2020, 12:36:29 AM »
Do you really think only someone from Cleveland caught it at a kosher food event in New York?

Of course not, but I was talking about the circle of local people that I know.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #706 on: October 09, 2020, 12:39:39 AM »
Of course not, but I was talking about the circle of local people that I know.
So if we are able to presume that there were numerous New Yorkers in the frum community outside of the circle of local people you know who were infected then how does it make sense to infer from your circle not having it? Isn't that clearly not indicative?
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #707 on: October 09, 2020, 12:49:22 AM »
Do you really think only someone from Cleveland caught it at a kosher food event in New York?
*2 people from Cleveland.

*Which was packed to the gills by thousands of frum Jews.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #708 on: October 09, 2020, 03:09:35 PM »
The first wave barely touched Montreal.
That's not at all true
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #709 on: October 12, 2020, 08:18:50 PM »
That's not at all true

Very very true. I'm a Montrealer.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #710 on: October 15, 2020, 03:29:40 AM »
There clearly is a second wave. Everything is being recycled and is resurfacing.

Here's one example out of many.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/14/health/blood-group-covid-19-scn-wellness/index.html
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #711 on: October 24, 2020, 09:19:32 PM »
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #712 on: October 24, 2020, 09:48:36 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/24/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

On schedule and as expected.
We were told about a second wave during the Fall/Flu season. This wave/uptick has nothing to do with the Fall/Flu season. Probably caused as people get tired/weary of being careful and start going back to normal...

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #713 on: October 24, 2020, 09:49:39 PM »
We were told about a second wave during the Fall/Flu season. This wave/uptick has nothing to do with the Fall/Flu season. Probably caused as people get tired/weary of being careful and start going back to normal...

You know it's fall now, right?
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #714 on: October 24, 2020, 09:59:41 PM »
You know it's fall now, right?
But does this Wave have anything to do with the Fall/Flu season? Lakewood/NY started their spike before the Fall we are dealing with cycles not a predicted Fall Flu season uptick. Are we seeing the flu spiking Now?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #715 on: October 24, 2020, 10:02:34 PM »
But does this Wave have anything to do with the Fall/Flu season? Lakewood/NY started their spike before the Fall we are dealing with cycles not a predicted Fall Flu season uptick. Are we seeing the flu spiking Now?

The flu doesn't cause Covid. The flu season happens to start in the fall. When the predictions were made for a second wave in the fall, the only time flu came into the picture was as a factor which may make Covid harder to diagnose or harder to treat (if someone has both). There is no known or claimed correlation between the flu and Covid.

ETA: traditionally, the second waves of pandemics come in the fall. They are also traditionally worse (in terms of spread). What we are seeing is exactly in line with what we have come to expect from pandemics.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #716 on: October 24, 2020, 10:41:23 PM »
The flu doesn't cause Covid. The flu season happens to start in the fall. When the predictions were made for a second wave in the fall, the only time flu came into the picture was as a factor which may make Covid harder to diagnose or harder to treat (if someone has both). There is no known or claimed correlation between the flu and Covid.

ETA: traditionally, the second waves of pandemics come in the fall. They are also traditionally worse (in terms of spread). What we are seeing is exactly in line with what we have come to expect from pandemics.
I didn't say the flu was going to cause covid. What they talked about the second wave was Just like the Flu season gets bad in the Fall which probably has to do with the weather / lower immune etc. Covid will also spike. Now the flu season hasn't exactly started but covid seems to have take off! And in Lakewood it took off 2 months ago! So it's not the "Fall" wave - Lakewood and NY is the proof

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #717 on: October 25, 2020, 12:24:48 AM »
I didn't say the flu was going to cause covid. What they talked about the second wave was Just like the Flu season gets bad in the Fall which probably has to do with the weather / lower immune etc. Covid will also spike. Now the flu season hasn't exactly started but covid seems to have take off! And in Lakewood it took off 2 months ago! So it's not the "Fall" wave - Lakewood and NY is the proof

So because both this and that could possibly start at the same time, since this hasn't started yet, that must be something else, because they aren't tied together but we can't have them apart.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #718 on: October 25, 2020, 12:55:58 AM »
But does this Wave have anything to do with the Fall/Flu season? Lakewood/NY started their spike before the Fall we are dealing with cycles not a predicted Fall Flu season uptick. Are we seeing the flu spiking Now?
Meaning in September? We know that the frum communities have been ahead of te game here.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #719 on: November 01, 2020, 01:49:10 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/world/johnson-month-long-lockdown-england

If Biden wins, expect a national lockdown at some point this winter using the same key phrase that is being used in Europe: circuit breaker.
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