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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2020, 02:22:05 PM »
No other state other than NJ even comes close.
They are the only 2 states in the 4 digits per 1MP
Large majority of states are in double digits
Oops, my bad. Looking at deaths per cases.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2020, 02:27:53 PM »
No other state other than NJ even comes close.
They are the only 2 states in the 4 digits per 1MP
Large majority of states are in double digits
MA & RI are also above 10k per million, CT and DC are pretty close too.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2020, 03:33:37 PM »
I love the arguments trying to re-frame the US numbers without NY. "That hotspot is crazy! It skews all the numbers! Let's look at it without that hotspot, and then compare to other countries. Wait, you want to do what? No, don't take their biggest hotspot out! That destroys our narrative!"
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2020, 05:10:02 PM »
MA & RI are also above 10k per million, CT and DC are pretty close too.

We were discussing the CFR.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2020, 05:13:47 PM »
We were discussing the CFR.
oops. CT & MA aren't too far behind.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2020, 05:15:38 PM »
I love the arguments trying to re-frame the US numbers without NY. "That hotspot is crazy! It skews all the numbers! Let's look at it without that hotspot, and then compare to other countries. Wait, you want to do what? No, don't take their biggest hotspot out! That destroys our narrative!"
oops. CT & MA aren't too far behind.

It's pretty obvious when people don't actually follow the thread.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2020, 05:17:16 PM »
It's pretty obvious when people don't actually follow the thread.
Each thread has 20 different things going on. Sometimes it is even between to the two main characters.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2020, 05:37:47 PM »
Each thread has 20 different things going on. Sometimes it is even between to the two main characters.
Agreed.
Just pointing out how it's out of context.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2020, 05:41:37 PM »
{citation needed}

You made a claim that no one knew about asymptomatic spread before Purim, and then ask me for proof? Lol. Is February 24th early enough? What will you claim next - that China didn’t lie about their numbers or that the 15 cases in the US will turn to 0?
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission-chinese-woman-relatives-2020-2

It was also well known before that, for example DP cruise ship found half the infected were asymptomatic at time of testing. That testing occurred in mid-February.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2020, 05:51:08 PM »
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2020, 10:55:54 PM »
Each thread has 20 different things going on. Sometimes it is even between to the two main characters.

You need to convert to Judaism... The fact that you understand this means you're one of us..

It's classical talmudic discussion.. everyone is discussing 20 different things on 20 different opinions and 20 different subjects..

Why?!?! No one knows..

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2020, 11:03:18 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=113531.msg2206792#msg2206792

Right this is part of the problem that people had no symptoms. Others were going around shedding like my cat . Etc

motz"sh before Purim, he was on a popular podcast saying not to worry.. just wash your hands etc

It's on his fault This was the data that was available then This is what the big discussion back then was about washing your hands and not touching your face.

It was only about 1 to 2 weeks later that they started discussing seriously about sneezes and coughing.

But even before purim I was concerned about coughing and sneezes. We explored various AC UV light filters It's supposedly would kill any sneeze.

Based on expert advice in the community we did not do that and instead I spent $500 on advanced AC filters for the shul.


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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2020, 11:49:36 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=113531.msg2206792#msg2206792
Do you think guilt about missing the severity of this in the beginning is subconsciously driving some decision makers to be overly cautious at this point?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2020, 11:52:58 PM »
Do you think guilt about missing the severity of this in the beginning is subconsciously driving some decision makers to be overly cautious at this point?
Very possible, but no way to know. Not a good enough chashash just to discount his opinion, though...

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2020, 11:54:05 PM »
Very possible, but no way to know. Not a good enough chashash just to discount his opinion, though...
Why does he get an opinion?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2020, 11:55:41 PM »
Why does he get an opinion?
The fact that someone once made a mistake means that they can never be listened to again? (I'm not saying to necessarily listen to him over anyone else)

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2020, 12:00:09 AM »
The fact that someone once made a mistake means that they can never be listened to again? (I'm not saying to necessarily listen to him over anyone else)
When you are so far off on the facts at the beginning you shouldn’t be relied on anymore when it comes to the same subject.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #117 on: May 11, 2020, 12:06:19 AM »
When you are so far off on the facts at the beginning you shouldn’t be relied on anymore when it comes to the same subject.

That's stupid. So that means you would never listen to anybody?

If someone warns you not to do something and you do it and don't die, are they unreliable?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #118 on: May 11, 2020, 12:12:04 AM »
That's stupid. So that means you would never listen to anybody?

If someone warns you not to do something and you do it and don't die, are they unreliable?
I’m being very specific about someone who was supposed to lead the community on medical issues and clearly failed. Someone else should be the leader

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2020, 01:02:41 AM »
I’m being very specific about someone who was supposed to lead the community on medical issues and clearly failed. Someone else should be the leader
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