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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2020, 12:51:32 PM »
Yes. Wake up and smell the coffee.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2020/03/new-order-makes-self-isolation-mandatory-for-individuals-entering-canada.html
No reason to offer any leniency to people risking mass casualties. Israel should do the same.

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so its only for those entering Canada now?!

If you believe they can eradicate it entirely and keep up these measures long term. 
Regardless, do you actually believe we can implement or enforce such a draconian measure in the US (i am skeptical as to whether it's even constitutional)  ?   

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #161 on: May 13, 2020, 05:07:44 PM »
Does anyone know what BP/Williamsburg's numbers look like currently?

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #162 on: May 13, 2020, 06:32:34 PM »
so its only for those entering Canada now?!

If you believe they can eradicate it entirely and keep up these measures long term. 
Regardless, do you actually believe we can implement or enforce such a draconian measure in the US (i am skeptical as to whether it's even constitutional)  ?
Constitution can be amended (or tossed out). It's not the end all.

I don't think America can eradicate it at this point, it would take an extremely strict nationwide lockdown for 3-4 weeks, society wouldn't comply, and has weapons to rebel. The best hope is to slow it down to keep hospitals functioning and hope to advance testing/vaccine/medication, and it's likely most fo the world will remain closed to Americans in one way or another until significant progress is made with testing/vaccine/medication.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #163 on: May 13, 2020, 08:15:55 PM »
Constitution can be amended (or tossed out). It's not the end all.
You may not like it, but it when it comes to enforcement, you better believe its the end all.
And I'll be glad to bet you 1,000,000 million USD on that.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #164 on: May 13, 2020, 08:44:52 PM »
Dr. Fauci and FDA commissioner testifying live in front of Senate.
Just noticed that the admiral mentioned the group testing concept that was posted here earlier on one of the threads.

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #167 on: June 07, 2020, 10:38:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/cfishman/status/1269781054635868161?s=19
There’s another side to this story though.

When would these states have opened up when it would’ve been a different story?

The virus is all over the US and there is no way to stop the spread

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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #169 on: June 07, 2020, 11:05:13 PM »
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #170 on: June 07, 2020, 11:22:52 PM »
I think people scared him off :(
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #171 on: June 07, 2020, 11:36:11 PM »
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #172 on: June 08, 2020, 06:57:45 AM »
https://twitter.com/cfishman/status/1269781054635868161?s=19

Two things to point out:
1. The significant uptick is more than 2 weeks after their reopening, though it does seem like there was a small uptick near the two week mark.
2. If this is an upwards trend then it could quickly snowball R”L...
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #173 on: June 08, 2020, 07:00:57 AM »
https://twitter.com/cfishman/status/1269781054635868161?s=19
Can some of this be attributed to increased testing?
Two things to point out:
1. The significant uptick is more than 2 weeks after their reopening, though it does seem like there was a small uptick near the two week mark.
2. If this is an upwards trend then it could quickly snowball R”L...
Spreading takes longer than we assume, as we don't naturally grasp compounding numbers. We know the virus was in NY in February, and likely in Jan, but wasn't widespread until mid-late March
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #174 on: June 08, 2020, 08:39:38 AM »
Two things to point out:
1. The significant uptick is more than 2 weeks after their reopening, though it does seem like there was a small uptick near the two week mark.
2. If this is an upwards trend then it could quickly snowball R”L...
It can ONLY be this way. You will not have suddenly 10s of thousands of people with it. The average spread is to a handfull of people with some more and some less. It takes time for those 5 people who caught it to spread it to 25 then 125 etc. (the spread to 5 is arbitrary for the example).
Can some of this be attributed to increased testing? Spreading takes longer than we assume, as we don't naturally grasp compounding numbers. We know the virus was in NY in February, and likely in Jan, but wasn't widespread until mid-late March
TO have reached anywhere near the numbers who caught it purim time there had to have been THOUSANDS of cases in the community before purim.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #175 on: June 08, 2020, 08:42:18 AM »
TO have reached anywhere near the numbers who caught it purim time there had to have been THOUSANDS of cases in the community before purim.
That's my point.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #176 on: June 08, 2020, 08:56:57 AM »
That's my point.
THat is how I understood it.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #177 on: June 08, 2020, 09:00:16 AM »
I should clarify that it took a few weeks or months to get from the initial few cases in Jan/Feb to the catastrophic widespread epidemic in mid-late March, and that was even before any preventive measures.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #178 on: June 08, 2020, 09:03:47 AM »
I should clarify that it took a few weeks or months to get from the initial few cases in Jan/Feb to the catastrophic widespread epidemic in mid-late March, and that was even before any preventive measures.
Yup and therefore anyone who thinks that because there were only a "few" new known cases in recent weeks this means we are in the clear is missing the boat.
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Re: Is there a second wave?
« Reply #179 on: June 08, 2020, 09:05:20 AM »
Then there's almost no point in waiting 2 weeks between steps and phases
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