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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2020, 02:04:19 AM »
That's creative
With all that string you could fly a kite.  :)
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2020, 02:07:06 AM »
My point was;
People most likey own more guns there, so they would chase persons they though was a culprit for breakins with a gun.
You keep talking about cultures. That applies to all aspects, not just guns. So I will ask again. What is the rural culture of Georgia when it comes to blacks?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2020, 02:07:51 AM »
So that what they are for. To tie the guy up?

No. They're there to let the goy know that when we call you into our house on Shabbos for a piece of cake, there's going to be strings attached.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2020, 02:08:24 AM »
Happens all the time in Jewish areas. All the time,  it's called a chaptzem, GIYF.
Some time the culprits are black and sometimes white or even brown.

What the heck part of Brooklyn are you living in?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2020, 02:09:45 AM »
No. They're there to let the goy know that when we call you into our house on Shabbos for a piece of cake, there's going to be strings attached.
I think you are telling a fib. I had a great Shabbos meal with no strings attached.  :P
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2020, 02:09:53 AM »
What the heck part of Brooklyn are you living in?
The urban legend part.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2020, 02:10:24 AM »
Where I live, next to the playground at night there can be ppl that smoke weed.

I usually ask them to leave, nicely.

If it's a Spanish or white guy I approach them and they usually leave nicely.
Whenever it's someone black they always shout back that I am only telling them so, because of thier skin color. I  nicely explain to them that it has nothing to do and they can leave if they want or even stay, all I am doing is asking them nicely.

I am aware of the fact that some ppl feel differently and respond differently based on culture, history ETC.

But in the heat of the moment someone has to think that the guy is black so act a certain way, yes, maybe, but dont blame the guy if he didn't.






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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2020, 02:12:36 AM »
What the heck part of Brooklyn are you living in?
I actually dont live and haven't lived in any part of Brooklyn.  I have personally witnessed a chaptzem on 13x47 at the bank.

You can google it, happens all the time. ALL THE TIME.
Maybe these days less then it did but still happens.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2020, 02:13:49 AM »


But in the heat of the moment someone has to think that the guy is black so act a certain way, yes, maybe, but dont blame the guy if he didn't.

I think they did exactly that.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2020, 02:19:53 AM »
I actually dont live and haven't lived in any part of Brooklyn.  I have personally witnessed a chaptzem on 13x47 at the bank.

You can google it, happens all the time. ALL THE TIME.
Maybe these days less then it did but still happens.
it happened a few times in BP recently

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2020, 09:43:32 AM »
What felony was committed @KSMH

2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest
O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2020, 09:51:48 AM »
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2020, 10:24:22 AM »


What felony was committed @KSMH

2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest
O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.




I keep saying as follows;
1. There were breakins reported in the past in that neighborhood.  [I read so in the news]
2. He broke/entered into a home under construction.
3. Some ppl in the neighborhood thought these breakins  were related.

A breakin can be a felony.

I'm not defending thier actions, but I dont think it's fair to say Arbur was killed because he was black. 

Regardless, there is no proof they actually were performing a citizens arrest, they were chasing him... trying to stop him. What defines a citetzns arrest and what defines trying to stop someone. The citizens arrest law might help thier defense.

 The video shows Arbur fighting the guy and for the gun.

https://youtu.be/TFmsdAtOaC4

It clearly shows Arbur running around the car and then attacking the guy holding the gun, look at .33, look for his feet under the car.  The video shows Arbur fighting and continuing to fight, he was clearly the one who started it physical. 
Maybe they had a wrong judgment to bring a gun or initiate the chase, but to claim he was shot because he was black is not substantiated.





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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2020, 10:37:03 AM »
A breakin can be a felony.
Are you now saying he broke into the house? It was a construction site and he went into it. No where on any of the videos does in show him breaking in, it shows the exact opposite. You make some good points but this is grasping at straws.
I'm not defending thier actions, but I dont think it's fair to say Arbur was killed because he was black. 
Do I believe they set out to kill him, of course not. I believe the actions they took were because he was black.
Regardless, there is no proof they actually were performing a citizens arrest, they were chasing him... trying to stop him. What defines a citetzns arrest and what defines trying to stop someone. The citizens arrest law might help thier defense.
I am going to assume you wrote something wrong here. Without the citizens arrest they have no defense.
 
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2020, 10:53:10 AM »
Are you now saying he broke into the house? It was a construction site and he went into it. No where on any of the videos does in show him breaking in, it shows the exact opposite. You make some good points but this is grasping at straws.Do I believe they set out to kill him, of course not. I believe the actions they took were because he was black. I am going to assume you wrote something wrong here. Without the citizens arrest they have no defense.

I was saying, these ppl thought this tresspaser might have a connection to recent breakins.

You're entitled to your opinion, my opinion is, they didn't recognize the guy as from the neighborhood and saw neighbors finding his entrance suspicious and gave chase. In the heat of the moment when ppl are saying stop a guy for whatever, no one thinks oh, this guy said to chase this dude  only because he is black. Was the orginal heightened suspicion only because he was black? maybe yes and maybe no.
When there are multiple reported breakins and someone is trespassing on a property ppl tend to make a correlation.

Trying to stop someone on the street is not illegal. They can try stoping him without force, and they did so and Arbur started a fight which caused them to defend themselves. I am not defending thier actions but I dont find it sensible to say he was killed because he went on a peaceful jog, like his family claimed, it just didn't happen that way.

I'm not against charging them thru GJ proceeding, which they were persuing [after video surfaced] but for prosecutors to just charge when media decided to insert racial bias  claims, is ludicrous.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2020, 11:06:56 AM »
Trying to stop someone on the street is not illegal. They can try stoping him without force, and they did so and Arbur started a fight which caused them to defend themselves.
You can have an opinion like everyone else but where do you get this nonsense from?
You can't get your guns, chase after someone and stop them. Are you serious?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2020, 11:16:16 AM »
You can have an opinion like everyone else but where do you get this nonsense from?
You can't get your guns, chase after someone and stop them. Are you serious?
You are giving pretzels a bad name.  ;)
Open carry is legal in Georgia.....

You can walk out of your house and try stoping someone, it's not illegal. The video dosnt show them use physical force before Arbur started going physical.
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