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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2020, 11:41:54 PM »
And this is why I was hoping no one would post this story on this forum. EVERYTHING has to become a partisan fight. Even when a man gets murdered.

Here is a long thread:

Now even if 90% of that is inaccurate, it's still murder. the fact that they got away with it until the video turned up is such a monumental crime of corruption and disgrace. People get arrested for so much less, for the cops to have decided so fast and with such minimal investigation that the killing was justified is so blatantly corrupt, it's gobsmackingly stunning that anyone would try to turn this into some sort of political football.

Your Twitter feed is a biased thread it does not support the small amount hard facts available.

My post was not taking sides but projecting a possible outcome.

There are two sides to a story.

If you listen to the 911 Audio, it has been reported and the neighbor reported someone breaking into a house under construction - FACT [ your  linked Twitter thread dosnt agree with this]
https://youtu.be/qEOBDlg9rp8

The neighbors gave chase to the guy they believed committed burglary. Under Georgian law  a citizen may make an arrest if someone is suspected of committing/committed  a crime.

What is abvisios from the video, there was a fight over a gun- FACT

Now, the details in between is/will be disputed.

Such a thing, while easy to  technically prosecute, is hard to get a guilty conviction. Remember that case in Florida?

Every competent lawyer will tell you, that a case that has gotten considerabl media attention has more to do with politics and public image then with fair justice. 

The supreme court ruled today, not every case of public corruption means there was a crime committed.

I'll add; not every case of death means a crime of murder.

I agree there was a tragedy, but that dosnt mean a violation of the law.

When every media outlet screams OUTRAGE, there is no choice but to prosecute, even if that means a non guilty verdict.

While a more detailed investigation is most likely justified, arresting someone because all media decided to wake today is not justified. A prosecution should not be based on media but based on facts.

Media can bring attention to a crime, but should not prosecute it.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2020, 11:43:05 PM »
Yea, that's exactly the moral I learned from this.

@Lurker said it less expletively better than I would have
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2020, 11:46:49 PM »
Your Twitter feed is a biased thread it does not support the small amount hard facts available.

My post was not taking sides but projecting a possible outcome.

There are two sides to a story.

If you listen to the 911 Audio, it has been reported and the neighbor reported someone breaking into a house under construction - FACT [ your  linked Twitter thread dosnt agree with this]
https://youtu.be/qEOBDlg9rp8

The neighbors gave chase to the guy they believed committed burglary. Under Georgian law  a citizen may make an arrest if someone is suspected of committing/committed  a crime.

What is abvisios from the video, there was a fight over a gun- FACT

Now, the details in between is/will be disputed.

Such a thing, while easy to  technically prosecute, is hard to get a guilty conviction. Remember that case in Florida?

Every competent lawyer will tell you, that a case that has gotten considerabl media attention has more to do with politics and public image then with fair justice. 

The supreme court ruled today, not every case of public corruption means there was a crime committed.

I'll add; not every case of death means a crime of murder.

I agree there was a tragedy, but that dosnt mean a violation of the law.

When every media outlet screams OUTRAGE, there is no choice but to prosecute, even if that means a non guilty verdict.

While a more detailed investigation is most likely justified, arresting someone because all media decided to wake today is not justified. A prosecution should not be based on media but based on facts.

Media can bring attention to a crime, but should not prosecute it.
Why let facts come in the way? The fact is that a black guy was killed.

Don't even talk about him grabbing a gun. The facts around this is not important. It's only important that he was black. והראיה that that's all you will hear in the media.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2020, 11:47:27 PM »


Well it's outrageous that the police might have let this story go away without an investigation.

But let's not show outrage to either side before we know the facts.

Black or white, moral of the story is, don't try to grab a gun away, when you have 2 armed people approaching you unless you're a navy seal...

Always bad when they just shush stuff up when they see fit.
+1 on the rest.


Arrest ≠ conviction.

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Mods, can we delete BEFORE you have reason to?

What's wrong with different opinions?

Let everyone have their say. I would to hear more views.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2020, 11:48:55 PM »
The supreme court ruled today, not every case of public corruption means there was a crime committed.
There should be a new law:

Not every time there is a crime committed that makes media attention, does there need to be political corruption involved.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2020, 12:28:39 AM »
Man, I'm really glad they have crazy gun laws in NY.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2020, 07:29:57 PM »
Were literally hunted EVERYDAY/EVERYTIME we step foot outside the comfort of our homes! Cant even go for a damn jog man! Like WTF man are you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!? No man fr ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!! James wrote, ending the post with the hashtags #StayWoke and #ProfiledCauseWeAreSimplyBlack and two tear-faced emojis.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2020, 07:33:52 PM »
Very sad story. Hopefully justice will be served.

Side note, what were they hoping to accomplish by going after him?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2020, 07:34:59 PM »
Side note, what were they hoping to accomplish by going after him?
They didn't think this out. There was no end game.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2020, 09:50:00 PM »


Side note, what were they hoping to accomplish by going after him?
Catching a burglar?

Now what made them decide he is the burglar besides racism, I do not know.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2020, 09:56:32 PM »
Catching a burglar?
Was there any evidence he was a burglar? Any stolen items found on his dead body? Anything missing from the construction site?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2020, 09:58:41 PM »
Was there any evidence he was a burglar? Any stolen items found on his dead body? Anything missing from the construction site?
No reason to suspect that, hence my next line.

But that was what they wanted to accomplish.

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2020, 10:02:49 PM »
But that was what they wanted to accomplish.
I guess you can say they wanted to stop a (insert anything) since there is no evidence he did anything wrong.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2020, 10:26:17 PM »
Was there any evidence he was a burglar? Any stolen items found on his dead body? Anything missing from the construction site?
There was more then one call to police reporting a  break in at a construction site.
He was the guy ppl were reporting. If he actually broke in is a different story, but they were trying to stop him for that.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2020, 10:29:51 PM »
There was more then one call to police reporting a  break in at a construction site.
He was the guy ppl were reporting. If he actually broke in is a different story, but they were trying to stop him for that.
Source?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2020, 10:32:38 PM »
Source?
Your Twitter feed is a biased thread it does not support the small amount hard facts available.

My post was not taking sides but projecting a possible outcome.

There are two sides to a story.

If you listen to the 911 Audio, it has been reported and the neighbor reported someone breaking into a house under construction - FACT [ your  linked Twitter thread dosnt agree with this]
https://youtu.be/qEOBDlg9rp8

The neighbors gave chase to the guy they believed committed burglary. Under Georgian law  a citizen may make an arrest if someone is suspected of committing/committed  a crime.

What is abvisios from the video, there was a fight over a gun- FACT

Now, the details in between is/will be disputed.

Such a thing, while easy to  technically prosecute, is hard to get a guilty conviction. Remember that case in Florida?

Every competent lawyer will tell you, that a case that has gotten considerabl media attention has more to do with politics and public image then with fair justice. 

The supreme court ruled today, not every case of public corruption means there was a crime committed.

I'll add; not every case of death means a crime of murder.

I agree there was a tragedy, but that dosnt mean a violation of the law.

When every media outlet screams OUTRAGE, there is no choice but to prosecute, even if that means a non guilty verdict.

While a more detailed investigation is most likely justified, arresting someone because all media decided to wake today is not justified. A prosecution should not be based on media but based on facts.

Media can bring attention to a crime, but should not prosecute it.
See the YT vid attached.
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2020, 10:36:23 PM »
Catching a burglar?

Now what made them decide he is the burglar besides racism, I do not know.
Or why they thought it was a good idea to go on an armed hunt for a burglar...

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2020, 10:39:04 PM »
See the YT vid attached.
Is that the same caller? Was the first call the same time as he was murdered? He couldn't even tell 911 what this guy was doing wrong. Was it the same guy?
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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2020, 10:42:29 PM »
Is that the same caller? Was the first call the same time as he was murdered? He couldn't even tell 911 what this guy was doing wrong. Was it the same guy?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8297653/911-call-white-ex-cop-shot-killed-unarmed-black-jogger-Ahmaud-Arbery-revealed.html

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Re: His crime was he was black!!!
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2020, 10:45:51 PM »
"Two calls to police - one to a non-emergency number, the other to 911 - are revealed"
My question was is it the same caller?

How can this guy not know what street they were on? Was he not from the neighborhood when hunted down this unarmed black man?
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